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im looking for a new desktop for pr, and i found a hp desktop that comes with these specs.
is it good enough, thanks!!!!!

Processor & Memory:

Intel? Core? i7-4770K quad-core processor (3.5GHz)
8MB Shared Cache
12GB DDR3-1600MHz (2 DIMMs)

Drives:

2TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
SuperMulti DVD Burner

Operating System:

Microsoft? Windows 8.1 (64-bit)

Graphics & Video:

Intel Integrated Graphics

nightcall wrote:im looking for a new desktop for pr, and i found a hp desktop that comes with these specs.
is it good enough, thanks!!!!!
Graphics & Video:

Intel Integrated Graphics

No, you need a discrete graphics card to run PR at max settings. That PC is not a gaming PC, it's a workstation.

For the same money you could put together a much better gaming PC yourself.

thanks, but i dont know how to build a desktop computer myself so im looking for a pre-built one. any recommendation?thanks!!

nightcall wrote:thanks, but i dont know how to build a desktop computer myself so im looking for a pre-built one. any recommendation?thanks!!

It's very easy to do, as a 14 year old I put my own PC together with no guidance at all (the days of dial-up so there were no youtube tutorials)... these days there is such a wealth of knowledge that it is a shame to be a gamer (especially if you don't work full time) who hasn't built their own PC

That being said, a lot of *decent* computer stores also offer assembly of your parts for a small fee. I don't live in the US, but I'm sure with some research you can suss out a few good candidates.

Use the following for guidance... I don't know how much that HP computer was going for, but I'm guessing about 1k

Logical Increments - PC Buying Guide

From that website, for 1k you can get a computer that will wipe the floor with the HP one [although keep in mind the HP one might(??) come with a screen/kb etc so factor those into your pricing].

Excuse me Psyrus, but I ran PR with integrated graphics of a 4770 mostly on medium/high with 2x AA and got 30~60 fps.

Nightcall, I'd suggest you saving money by getting an i5 CPU and using that money to buy a mid/high-tier AMD card.

Even better would be; buy a full AMD equiped PC. They're cheap are reliable, but use more energy than Intel ft. Nvidia. For 500 dollar you can get a decent gaming PC that even will run BF4 on mid/high without problems.

Check ouy my link http://www.logicalincrements.com/ This is a very good guide made by "professionals"

Oh, and.. ditch the DVD-drive, unless you really need one

I use my DVD drive practically every day, I'd advise against ditching that. Maybe you want to play an old game or watch a movie.

[R-CON]Psyrus wrote:
For the same money you could put together a much better gaming PC yourself.

This 100x. I built my first computer around the same time as Psyrus without any tutorials, just manuals. Not only is it cheaper but you get exactly what you want, and you learn how to upgrade it also.

Careless wrote:Excuse me Psyrus, but I ran PR with integrated graphics of a 4770 mostly on medium/high with 2x AA and got 30~60 fps.

Yeah but that's not what he asked for...

Plus you learn how to mend computers, I've even mended two for people all thanks to playing PR and the forums!

Unfortunately one thing is guaranteed with a computer - it'll break down one day!

You can build a computer that can run the newest games on high/ultra for less than $750.

The thing people forget when building a PC is to wait for sales and price drops of the components you want, hence why many end up blowing $2,000 on a computer that is no more better than the one that can go for $700 or less (that is at least what I have witnessed)

You just have to know what you need. If you're just a gamer, you don't need to spend $300+ on 32GB of RAM, because you will never need that much if you are (btw that's just an example I'm putting out)

Thanks for the recommendations guys, I just came up with these specs, what do u guys think? that should be less than $700

Processor 1 x Intel? Core? i5-4460 Processor (4x 3.20GHz/6MB L3 Cache)
Processor Cooling 1 x Asetek 510LC Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1150] - Standard 120mm Fan
Memory 1 x 8 GB [4 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand **Free Upgrade to DDR3-1866 G.SKILL RipjawsX
Video Card 1 x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 - 2GB
Motherboard 1 x MSI B85 G41 -- 2x PCIe 3.0 x16, 2x USB 3.0, HDMI
Power Supply 1 x 400 Watt - Standard
Primary Hard Drive 1 x 2 TB HARD DRIVE -- 64M Cache, 7200rpm, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive

I would at least up the power supply and video card. Everything else seems to be plenty sufficient for current and future game-play.

You want him to "up" the video card? Surely, a GTX 750 is a very capable GPU! I think it's way above what is needed for PR. It will do nicely for modern games like Arma III and Skyrim, etc.. but it isn't actually needed to play PR. For reference, I have a GTX 560 Ti and it is faaar above what is needed to play PR.

But yes, get a 800W+ power supply. It's more than what you need for PR, but it will allow you to play modern games.

Nightingale wrote:You want him to "up" the video card? Surely, a GTX 750 is a very capable GPU! I think it's way above what is needed for PR. It will do nicely for modern games like Arma III and Skyrim, etc.. but it isn't actually needed to play PR. For reference, I have a GTX 560 Ti and it is faaar above what is needed to play PR.

But yes, get a 800W+ power supply. It's more than what you need for PR, but it will allow you to play modern games.

You're correct about the video card, a GTX 750 is more than sufficient for PR (and a lot of games), however power supply wattage has nothing to do with 'playing modern games'.

Nvidia GeForce GTX 750 and 750 Ti review - Graphics card power consumption and Hardware installation
GeForce GTX 750 Ti Power Consumption - Tom's Hardware

So a system using a 750/750Ti under load will draw about 200W...

800W is ridiculous for that, even when you factor in capacitor degradation over time. If you want a powersupply that will stay within its maximum efficiency zone with that setup, I would suggest a Antec Trupower/Neo Evo, Corsair CX, Seasonic S12II... all around 500-550W. You can bump up to 620W if you think you'll keep the PSU for 5+ years and will potentially upgrade to higher tier hardware in the future.

thanks guys, you guys are so helpful! i guess i will just stick with the specs but get a better power supply then

nightcall wrote:thanks guys, you guys are so helpful! i guess i will just stick with the specs but get a better power supply then

By the way I would suggest going for a high quality air cooler like the 212 Evo or if you wanna go crazy a Noctua NH14