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Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-08 21:28
by Navo
At the moment it takes 15 seconds to reload a shell in the T-62. I suppose this is to reflect the lack of training the militia/FSA crew has.

Based on this video I propose to decrease the reload time:



(loud Allahu Akbars and tank exploding)

As you can see it only takes 9 seconds for the tank crew to reload.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-14 12:31
by K4on
any more sources?

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-14 12:32
by Mats391
Video shows T-62M and we only feature T-62, but i could not find any information that suggest a difference in reload times between them. Will wait a bit and see if someone has reasons to keep it at 15sec else it will be reduced to 10sec :)

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-14 13:53
by Jacksonez__
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Video shows T-62M and we only feature T-62, but i could not find any information that suggest a difference in reload times between them. Will wait a bit and see if someone has reasons to keep it at 15sec else it will be reduced to 10sec :)


Why would they let absolute beginners man the tanks anyways? Even they aren't that stupid :razz:



at 0:29 you see the man reloading. It took him approximately 9-10 seconds. More like 10 seconds. Although they did not show the whole operation (Fire the main gun - reload cycle, might actually take longer than 10 seconds)

E: I suppose the 15 seconds was taken straight from Wikipedia:
Each time the gun is fired, the tube must go into d?tente for cartridge ejection; the power traverse of the turret is inoperable during ejection and reloading operations. Since manual elevation and traverse are rather slow and not effective for tracking a moving target, rapid fire and second-hit capabilities are limited. The T-62's practical rate of fire is limited to 4 rounds per minute, which falls behind the capabilities of Western 105 mm gun equipped tanks
So it is not really up to the crew. Tank limitations, I suppose. So I do believe achieving faster rate of fire is not possible. I think that the reload time could be, at fastest, 12-10 seconds.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-14 14:51
by K4on
Ye, cant speak for mats, but we had MA advise on this somewhere. Just have to find it again.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 10:15
by ComradeHX
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Video shows T-62M and we only feature T-62, but i could not find any information that suggest a difference in reload times between them. Will wait a bit and see if someone has reasons to keep it at 15sec else it will be reduced to 10sec :)
And pretend T-62 in game is a placeholder for T-62M(which was proven, by video, to have been used by FSA) and add ATGM capabilities? :)

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 10:47
by Navo
I'd also like to see this to make the T-62 slightly less shit.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 11:21
by Jacksonez__
ComradeHX wrote:And pretend T-62 in game is a placeholder for T-62M(which was proven, by video, to have been used by FSA) and add ATGM capabilities? :)
I like that. T-62M with ATGM and thermals and better armor.. would balance it against T-72. MEC already is OP when it comes to armor.

BMP-2M and T-72s and Eryx HAT vs T-62 with 15s reload time :D

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 11:52
by Navo
Would need prove that the SAA uses the ATGMs though, which I haven't seen.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 12:20
by Jacksonez__
Navo wrote:Would need prove that the SAA uses the ATGMs though, which I haven't seen.
What's SAA? :confused:

I think the missile itself is pretty damn expensive? T-62 uses 9M117 Bastion (AT-10 Stabber).
Also T-62M can shoot the missile from its main gun (the tube) so there are no visible ATGM launchers on it. Maybe their (FSA's) T-62Ms have been stripped from those missiles, who knows.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 12:29
by Spook
Syrian Arab Army. MEC atm on Sbeneh.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 12:41
by Navo
Jacksonez__ wrote:What's SAA? :confused:

I think the missile itself is pretty damn expensive? T-62 uses 9M117 Bastion (AT-10 Stabber).
Also T-62M can shoot the missile from its main gun (the tube) so there are no visible ATGM launchers on it. Maybe their (FSA's) T-62Ms have been stripped from those missiles, who knows.
Just because it can doesn't mean the Syrian army has the missiles.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 12:43
by Jacksonez__
Navo wrote:Just because it can doesn't mean the Syrian army has the missiles.
I guess that's what I meant. FSA T-62M might have the capability to shoot ATGMs but they don't use/have the missiles.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 13:07
by Mats391
We will not pretend that the T-62 is a T-62M.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 13:20
by Jacksonez__
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:We will not pretend that the T-62 is a T-62M.
But will you decrease the T-62 reload time?

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 18:35
by Mats391
Jacksonez__ wrote:But will you decrease the T-62 reload time?
I am not sure. Most sources state that the ROF is 4 per minute (15sec reload) and only some that it is 3-5 per minute (12-20sec reload). I think we could reduce it to 12 sec, i do not think that we will go down to the 9 seconds from the video.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-17 23:18
by 3ti65
Btw, why is the t62 immune to the eryx? one shot only makes it light grey smoking... only tank that doesnt give a shit about being hat'd...

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-18 13:12
by Mats391
3ti65 wrote:Btw, why is the t62 immune to the eryx? one shot only makes it light grey smoking... only tank that doesnt give a shit about being hat'd...
The T62 should be almost destroyed be a hit from the Eryx. Where did you hit it? Could you make a detailed bug report about that?

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-18 16:38
by Yrkidding
I'd like to see the rate of fire increased a little. 11-12 seconds seems like a decent time and if those videos show support for that then perhaps it's a good call.

Re: Decrease T-62 reload time

Posted: 2015-03-18 21:46
by Rabbit
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:The T62 should be almost destroyed be a hit from the Eryx. Where did you hit it? Could you make a detailed bug report about that?
Tried hitting it from the front and it lived, shot it in the *** and it took about 15 seconds to go dead.