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Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-01 12:18
by K4on
1. Sight picture is too distant/small for the given range, even with the slight zoom in that doesn't seem to make anything any more visible. I'm not sure if the zoom was meant to help that problem.
PR team found that there is no need for a zoom during testing, all handheld weapons without scopes should have the same zoom. Now ingame, the zoom is nearly not noticeable for BAs, you jsut get that one pixel more which helps on greater distances to still see enemy bodies. Its probably getting reverted next patch.
4. The change to leave you unsighted after you rack your bolt is really unnatural for how, almost any shooter IRL would actually do it.
hold down fire button after shooting
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-01 12:44
by ComradeHX
[R-DEV]K4on wrote:PR team found that there is no need for a zoom during testing, all handheld weapons without scopes should have the same zoom. Now ingame, the zoom is nearly not noticeable for BAs, you jsut get that one pixel more which helps on greater distances to still see enemy bodies. Its probably getting reverted next patch.
Being able to see 1 extra pixel out of 2 is a lot.
Why revert the best change to boltaction rifle, ever?
There is no need for scope on AR either; you just need to suppress enemies, right?
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-01 13:07
by Pronck
Just aim for the upper leg and it will one shot any player no matter what distance.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-01 13:15
by ComradeHX
Pronck wrote:Just aim for the upper leg and it will one shot any player no matter what distance.
That would be 3 pixels you aim at; almost as thick, but not quite, as your front sight post...
Or sometimes legs are simply not available.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-02 20:56
by Barbrady
The 'zoom' is a joke, what is it? Like 1.05x magnification?
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-04 01:22
by ComradeHX
Barbrady wrote:The 'zoom' is a joke, what is it? Like 1.05x magnification?
Better than nothing.
Imo, every ironsight/reddot rifle should have it.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-05 20:38
by Valleyforge3946
Wing Walker wrote:I would tend to agree with you, but I tried it out last night in a little more detailed way, and in short, the "zoom" effect is pretty much none existent.
It seems to have a extraordinarily slight, "sharpening" effect on what you see.
However, I think it is just a change in pixelation as it seems it actually just moves your view forward by a half a step or less. Where in actuality the view needs to be more like what you see in the peripheral vision.
I did also notice that that the rife it self is really small. IRL if you have a rifle up to your eye it will take up about half of your field of view.
For those of us with 4k resoultion screens, this is probably more helpful as your sight would be about 17 pixels? and a target 5-6 pixels. my napkin math may be wrong. Someone should test this at at these resolutions with the bolt action.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-05 20:42
by tankninja1
I haven't really noticed any of the changes to bolt action rifles, I would still rather have semi or fully automatic guns.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-05 20:46
by ComradeHX
tankninja1 wrote:I haven't really noticed any of the changes to bolt action rifles, I would still rather have semi or fully automatic guns.
Bolt Action rifles are now very good for ambushing people while prone/stalking in grass.
Because it's one hit kill to the leg. And if you pick the easymode lee enfield, you can kill full squad without reloading.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 12:06
by Pronck
I have tested the rifles yesterday, especially the Mosin since it tends to aim better in my believe. With the zoom you can now be accurate to a good 200 meters. At least in my opinion, but it takes a change in tactics in order to be effective. Stalking and sticking behind is the only way of being very effective with the rifle.
The small zoom now allows you to see 2 or 3 pixels instead of one, allowing you to be more effective. As of now it is fine, the skilled/trained people can use the rifle good and the people who don't know how to use it yet can just grab an AKM.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 12:27
by Mineral
I like this as well
It's a small but useful change.
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 16:24
by webb
I guess zooming and actually finding opponents on your screen is really, really important in this kind of game. And I was wondering if people that use new 2k and 4k monitors are actually gaining huge advantage that way? Because while on normal 1080p monitor the enemy in the 1km distance looks like 4 pixels you can never ever spot, ppl using 2k and especially on 4k can should be able to spot him with no efforts because of many extra pixels. Am I right?
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 16:59
by SANGUE-RUIM
it's a shame we are getting the "bionic-eye zoom" back in PR...
first all zoom was removed from non-scoped guns (the best possible, miss those days)
then it was added that crazy zoom on the HMG emplacement, don't remember which version, long time
then came PR 1.0 beta, no zoom added
then all the sudden, BANG, we got zoom on all choppers, vehicles and tanks.. I mean, really?
now zoom was added do these rifles... I even predicted that some months ago that in 1.3 we'd have zoom in more weapons...
the next step would be add zoom to all other INS weapons in 1.4
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 17:02
by ComradeHX
___SANGUE-RUIM___ wrote:it's a shame we are getting the "bionic-eye zoom" back in PR...
first all zoom was removed from non-scoped guns (the best possible, miss those days)
then it was added that crazy zoom on the HMG emplacement, don't remember which version, long time
then came PR 1.0 beta, no zoom added
then all the sudden, BANG, we got zoom on all choppers, vehicles and tanks.. I mean, really?
now zoom was added do these rifles... I even predicted that some months ago that in 1.3 we'd have zoom in more weapons...
the next step would be add zoom to all other INS weapons in 1.4
It's a realism mechanic to simulate focusing of eye.
Too bad you are just staring at a flat monitor, eh?
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 17:46
by SANGUE-RUIM
ComradeHX wrote:Too bad you are just staring at a flat monitor, eh?
duh, you don't say
Re: PR:BF2 v1.3 bolt action iron sight rifles
Posted: 2015-06-06 20:45
by ComradeHX
Wing Walker wrote:
If an entire squad gets killed off by a player rocking the enfield or mosin, they deserved it for sure. That is one step up from the knife.
I have done it with 1911(for extra shame on Americans) + an IED before.
Mosin/Enfield is actually easier due to the easy 1-hit kill.
___SANGUE-RUIM___ wrote:duh, you don't say
So why were you crying about this change?