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You more experienced players have no right to comment about the job a certain SL is doing.

I am tired of seeing only four squads made with 30 seconds til launch. When I do see that you can bet your *** I am going to make a squad and at least TRY to get 8 guys to hit the ground running in the same direction. You are most likely going to join my squad. But since you didn't want to man up and be an SL yourself don't ***** about my orders.

Now that being said, I know I'm still learning. Please give me advice, even if I don't use it it's good info for next time. I particularly hate leading a squad on a map I haven't played before. So be patient, offer advice and constructive criticism. I'm a big boy and can learn from my mistakes but you being an ******* doesn't help.

Sidenote: I can't control the other 8 squads on the team. If they want to **** around and do absolutely nothing and not communicate with me then there is nothing I can do about that. What I can do is try to get my squad into the best tactical position considering the strategic situation. We might get shot, we might even get blown up buy grenades or light armor, we might even bleed a few tickets but by god you are going to fucking fight or I will shoot you myself! Is that clear?

Rant over, sorry but some guys are total asshats. Time to get real familiar with the kick button.

Edit: It has been brought to my attention that some of the people I have labeled as "Veterans" are possibly not but just believe they know more about the game than I do so they think that makes them better. These people are commonly referred to as "********" and come in all shapes and sizes. I am sorry if I have offended the longtime players of this wonderful game. I love this game and just want to be a competent SL to help people enjoy what PR has to offer.

Oh man that had to be rough. I'm not that new though. Good to hear he got better. That's my primary focus when I am SL, keep the game fun for my squad. Sometimes its hard to do and still support the team towards victory with my current level of knowledge in PR.

Would you believe that I slept between that round and making this thread? I'm just saying have patience. There are a lot of us new guys still learning the finer details. We are also learning to be squad leaders at the same time since PR seems to have a critical lack of them at the moment. We will get there. Just remember, my 50 hours in the past three weeks pales in comparison to your years of experience so helpful advice is always welcome, just be friendly. If being calm is too hard for you then I will reiterate, "man up and lead a squad yourself."

I am aware there are exceptions. Just like everyone else I am sick of people that either don't have mics or refuse to use them and sometimes people are just that stupid. But dammit we can endure!

Good Evening,

I SL quite often and use the same squad names. Heck, I'm thinking of copyrighting them.

The fun factor is high in my book. I hate micromanaging military do it my way or the highway SL's. If you have ever been in my squad, you know that I trust you if you say you can handle a special kit. I also demand no engagement unless necessary. I mean, look at the video below and start at 7:25. The dude runs through the German lines, talks to the friendlies on the other side and runs back through again.



Most people are so hyper focused that they don't even see you most of the time.

My thing is don't engage unless it is necessary when pushing on an objective. When you get to an objective, stay quiet for a bit (still not engaging) to see if the flag starts going your way. If it doesn't, start creeping around to find the enemy.

Another thing that I strongly insist on is the "perimeter" of the flag radius. So many folks go straight to the flag because under BF2, the closer you were to the flag the faster you cap'ed it. I don't think that this is true under PR but I might be wrong. I've defended many objectives by just "being there" and never firing a shot.

Don't be afraid to kick people from your squad if they are arrogant or annoying you.

Steeps wrote:Don't be afraid to kick people from your squad if they are arrogant or annoying you.

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Also the people who are bitching are probably not "veterans" more like playing one version earlier than 1.3 and think they are great. I play for 8 years, i dont ***** about new SLs, i kinda ***** when i see AN ENTIRE TEAM OF NEW GUYS, but thats different. Also the other dudes i play with who have been playing just as long are the same. they dont care about individual SLs who are new, but a whole team of headless chickens getting steamrolled by a stacked team of clans who been playing for a decade is both sad and hilarious. But more importantly, brief.

And hey, sorry to be a ****** but if you are a boy and you are young enough to sound like a girl, you shouldnt be a squad leader, your pre teen voice stimulates ALL the wrong responses.

It's definitely not an easy role to take when playing with randoms. I have had great rounds and sometimes it felt like a nightmare. The latter can be that quite cringe worthy if you are concerned in the fun factor of the squad. I've noticed more often than not that defensive flags are left abandoned and for me that's a sign that the team is badly organized from the get go. To join the offensive is not going to do any good, so 9 times out of 10 I find myself sticking to the defensive flag. When minutes pass by and there is no action, it can be a struggle to keep your squad entertained when they insist that it's a waste of time to defend or "this is boring" countless times. You can explain to them why it's important strategically or even make jokes/conversation to kill time, but in the end it doesn't matter. I've seen players abandoning my squad for thinking I'm doing a bad role for putting the team's interest first. Some players don't take into the account the bigger picture and would rather enjoy some action instead. I do kick them but by the time they leave the squad the damage is done as I have to wait for new players to find their way to us.

This still happens sometimes when playing with friends, but I've learned from my mistakes with randoms and recently I've started typing DEF SQUAD or DEFENSE in the squad's title so that players know what my squad is all about in that round. There are some elements that are out of your control when playing with randoms. For the most part it's ok, but on the few times you felt that it was all a waste of your time, try not to overthink too much about what went wrong.

Good Morning,

I ditto what Shielder is saying. On one round of Asad Kahl when the palace (SE corner of map) was an objective, my whole squad laid down in the wheat fields to the west of it within flag radius. The rest of the team fought over the other objectives but we never lost the palace objective. The enemy was running all around the palace compound searching for us but never found us. In the end, they were complaining about the flag being glitched because they couldn't move it. While we laid there the whole round, some of us smoked, ate pizza, drank coffee, took care of biological functions, and otherwise had a very relaxing round. If my memory serves me correctly, we got top squad. Now, be aware that I was pummeled in chat about not "moving" up to assault but in the end, some of those less vocal saw the benefit.

My problem is I expect too much from my squad... Need to calm down and do not try pulling off something bold.

Cossack wrote:My problem is I expect too much from my squad... Need to calm down and do not try pulling off something bold.

i kno dat fell mayne.

Cossack wrote:My problem is I expect too much from my squad... Need to calm down and do not try pulling off something bold.

when have i EVER seen you lead?

Psyko wrote:when have i EVER seen you lead?

Psyko wrote:when have i EVER seen you lead?

Last 2-4 weeks on OD-S server nearly every evening

Yeah, hes always leading.

Sometimes us veterans don't want to squad lead?

As its a pain because SOME new players tend not to listen. (I am directing that statement towards the newbies that DON'T want to learn how to play.).


I'll gladly squad lead. But I have to have a break once in awhile.

If anyone wants to learn how to squad lead... there's a lot of threads on this forum.

You could have instead of ranting lm here... posted a thread asking how to properly squad lead.

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Yeah I don't lead too often but when I do it seems to go pretty well. I have been starting to lead squads more often now since I'm seeing entire teams scattered around a map without following their squad leader. I have been playing for about 4 years now and can't stand being in a squad where the squad leader says to do something and somebody is like well I'm gonna go over here and do this. No... You're not.. You follow squad or get kicked.

I'm not exactly a veteran (by that I mean I've been only playing PR for a year or two), but one thing that annoys me is:

Overrated mic.

You don't have a mic? Gtfo from squad, you're useless! And there it is, a 4-man squad, when there could be 8. As long as the person has a kit and follows order, they're very, very, very, very useful. Just to prove this I've purposely refused to use mic. And, it's true, I've lost rounds because there'd be only 4 of us in a squad trying to capture a point, just because SL would lock it so someone without a mic wouldn't come. Many times I've been asked to confirm if I have mic, I did that, and I've spoken almost nothing for the whole rest of the round because there just wasn't need to. I'll just say that I've found a lot of things easier to write in squad chat than say in squad voice, due to all the chatting on both local and squad chat. I completely understand the preference of having/using a mic over not having/using one, but that doesn't mean you should just ditch someone from an infantry squad just because they can write, follow orders, do objectives, kill people, chat and be full member of squad just without voice. It's ridiculous. Yes, it's easier and faster to say "Enemy infantry 120 degrees coming towards us", in most cases, than type it. But the same thing someone can write in chat or can use the Q spot function. Another issue is that people who are so obsessed with mics forget that there is team chat, and some things should be announced there instead of just to your own squad or specific squad leader.

Not having a mic =/= not having a gun and brain.

TL;DR:
Having a mic is better than not having one. But, please, don't just ditch people simply because they don't have one, leaving squad half empty. Anyone with a weapon who follows orders is useful, very useful. Squad chat still exists and you should use it and read it.

Snaiper wrote:
TL;DR:
Having a mic is better than not having one. But, please, don't just ditch people simply because they don't have one, leaving squad half empty. Anyone with a weapon who follows orders is useful, very useful. Squad chat still exists and you should use it and read it.

Not exactly. The ones who do not to have a mic are the ones who TEND to not follow orders. I had a guy in my squad where he didn't have a mic. But he typed in chat saying he didn't have one yet, but he will listen to orders. I gave him a chance. Which he did pretty well.

Micless players should not step in a asset at all. (Tank, APC, HELI, CAS, ect). As you need a mic to survive in them. (Especially driving them).


You can get a basic mic for under $20. But I very commonly name my infantry squad: "MUMBLE INF!". So, you have to have a mic in order to play in my squad. Unless the server is very low population.

Some Mic-Less players are good. But a lot just aren't good at all.

Most servers have policy to kick micless people and I fully support that. Why? Because its part of PR.