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ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 05:09
by atom9[CH]
I dont like how the ATGM rocket flys from this APC. Several times already, I've waited for Tanks for example on Wanda Shan I had focus on a German Tank, pulled the trigger but I never managed to destroy one Tank. First of all the ATGM flys so slow secound it doesnt go strait, it makes several spins. If you compare a BMP-3 ATGM to this one it is ridiculous how much better the BMP's one is. I think you could bring it on the same level like from the BMP or you just leave it without.
Thanks for reading
|atom
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 05:41
by Jacksonez__
It's how it flies in real life, the spiral pattern keeps it stabilized (afaik?). Remember that BMP-3 ATGM (Kornet) is around 35 years newer than ZSL-92As (Malyutka), the bmp-3 atgm is laser beaming and stuff.
Malyutka - 1st generation ATGM
Kornet - 3rd generation ATGM
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 08:38
by Spook
They dont have 9M14. They should have HJ-8 or HJ-9, dont they?
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 09:00
by Jacksonez__
[R-CON]Spook wrote:They dont have 9M14. They should have HJ-8 or HJ-9, dont they?
ZSL-92b has HJ-73 which is basically 9M14. HJ-9 is mounted on chinese ATGM apc. HJ-8 is ground launcher only I think.
It appears to be the newer version with a one man turret, 30mm 2A72 30mm cannon with a rate of fire of 350-400 rounds per minute and a muzzle velocity of 960 m/s, coaxial 7.62mm MG and a single rail mounted HJ-73 anti tank missle.
Zsl-92b

HJ-9 atgm apc
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 12:41
by viirusiiseli
In addition to issues pointed by Atom, the ATGM occasionally fires straight to the ground or some other odd direction. It also loses tracking if you happen to try to move the sight too fast while the missile is either launching or in the air. I also missed one tank by keeping the sight on him for the whole launch. He was half behind palm trees, missile going for it, but just before impact (10-30m) missile spirals to the ground below him ~5m height lower.
tl;dr malyutka is near-worthless
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 13:11
by atom9[CH]
good point viirus
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-29 15:21
by Rhino
You will have to talk to China about fitting it with a better ATGM
It is after all only a first generation ATGM and is extremely cheap and known for its inaccuracy. Besides its somewhat balanced out by the ZSL-92 / WZ550 with its HJ-9 missiles being the best ATGM carrier ingame.
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 00:38
by viirusiiseli
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:You will have to talk to China about fitting it with a better ATGM
It is after all only a first generation ATGM and is extremely cheap and known for its inaccuracy. Besides its somewhat balanced out by the ZSL-92 / WZ550 with its HJ-9 missiles being the best ATGM carrier ingame.
Idk really well how to say it. But it's not only about the missile being bad, that would be understandable since its an old one. It's about the bugs/problems with missile that make it near unusable.
Like what I said in my previous post, missile sometimes launches to the ground even though you aim somewhere else. Sometimes when you shoot a target on close range (around 100m) the missile takes some weird top-attack mode instead of leaving the APC from its normal position. This is not a feature is it?
For example, BMP-1 malyutka does not have these mishaps. It works every time when you have LOS to your target. Chinese atgm does not. Maybe copy-paste BMP-1 ATGM properties to Chinese one?
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 08:07
by Rhino
Ye those do sound like bugs and odd the BMP-1 doesn't suffer from the same issues.
Comparing the files they are pretty much the same tbh. Only differences being the projectile start position (in relation to the missile rack to the turret mainly), with the WZ551 having it start higher up than the BMP-1 (in relation to where its turret pivot point is anyways, doesn't necessarily mean its higher up from the ground), the WZ551B has fewer rounds, and that's basically it tbh?
http://i.imgur.com/2qQaeZQ.jpg
Not sure why they aren't using dummy projectiles thou that's a little odd...
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 11:50
by M42 Zwilling
The firing delay only works with a SingleFireComp, which can't use dummies unfortunately
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 16:48
by Navo
viirusiiseli wrote: I also missed one tank by keeping the sight on him for the whole launch. He was half behind palm trees, missile going for it, but just before impact (10-30m) missile spirals to the ground below him ~5m height lower.
Project Reality: Red Dragon
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 17:43
by Zeno
Navo wrote:Project Reality: Red Dragon
More like Project reality: Viirus opressor
Re: ZSL-92B 30mm ATGM
Posted: 2015-12-30 18:36
by X-Alt
Navo wrote:Project Reality: Red Dragon
35% accuracy yo, just get a BU and do it right.