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PPsh41

Posted: 2007-01-21 04:13
by !ViEtCoNgToM
http://www.ak47.net/lite/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=496500

Looks like some marines use them in Iraq. Theres also some reports that they find them on insurgencents too.

So...any chance it will be in PR? Haha

Just an idea.



Tom

Posted: 2007-01-21 05:08
by element365
Interesting, I've seen that pic before. I personally don't really like the old style guns.

Posted: 2007-01-21 05:14
by Cherni
Cool old Russian SMGs in Iraq

Posted: 2007-01-21 06:25
by Eddie Baker
!ViEtCoNgToM wrote:Looks like some marines use them in Iraq. Theres also some reports that they find them on insurgencents too.

So...any chance it will be in PR? Haha
Well, of course they're finding them on insurgents and in their caches. Where do you think the Marines are getting them? :razz:

Not likely, I'm afraid, unless we borrow a model from another mod for use in the insurgent faction. Good to see someone who wants to play with the old toys, though. :)

Posted: 2007-01-21 06:32
by !ViEtCoNgToM
Darn haha one of my favorite world war 2 guns. It would be quite the first though for a modern setting game to have a gun like that in it haha.



Tom

Posted: 2007-01-21 06:40
by Eddie Baker
!ViEtCoNgToM wrote:Darn haha one of my favorite world war 2 guns. It would be quite the first though for a modern setting game to have a gun like that in it haha.
Well, considering that the M2 .50 cal is in the game and its that old, not really. :mrgreen:

While not a contemporary setting, I think the PPsh41 was in Battlefield Vietnam, though.

Posted: 2007-01-21 14:26
by Thunder
!ViEtCoNgToM wrote:Darn haha one of my favorite world war 2 guns. It would be quite the first though for a modern setting game to have a gun like that in it haha.



Tom
and the M14

oh and the m240 which is based on the FN MAG that has been in production since 1955, the mg3, which is a upgraded mg42. so theres a few direct desentants of ww2 weapons still knocking about

Posted: 2007-01-21 14:49
by Griffon2-6
Lol, next we'll have Russian soldiers using M1903 Springfields!

Posted: 2007-01-21 14:58
by Thunder
eeewwww,
griffon we both know that russian equipment is superior to captialist produce :P

Posted: 2007-01-21 15:01
by SGT.Collado
I saw a pic the other day a soldier with an AK. I was like W.T.F? He seemed to be in the streets somewhere so he was really using it.

Posted: 2007-01-21 15:32
by Thunder
yeah, i read somewhere that some special forces use the ak47 aswell in urban enviroment as not to attract attension when firing it, as most people hear a AK and take no notice of it. if its true or not i have no idea

Posted: 2007-01-21 15:57
by Griffon2-6
Fine, next we'll have SEALs using Mosin-Nagnants.

Posted: 2007-01-21 16:00
by Pantera
'[5NFSO wrote:Thunder']yeah, i read somewhere that some special forces use the ak47 aswell in urban enviroment as not to attract attension when firing it, as most people hear a AK and take no notice of it. if its true or not i have no idea
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... %2F1&hl=en

yeah, some soldiers use the AK, for what reason i dont know but they use it :)

Posted: 2007-01-21 18:15
by Thunder
Griffon2-6 wrote:Fine, next we'll have SEALs using Mosin-Nagnants.
pengins with Ak's?

Posted: 2007-01-21 18:16
by Bob_Marley
Sod that, get a Bren gun!

Posted: 2007-01-21 18:26
by mammikoura
why not use an ak? It's a great weapon.

Posted: 2007-01-21 18:28
by Thunder
beacause the pengins cant handle the recoil?
i last i heard the pengins ordered some g36's

Posted: 2007-01-21 23:47
by ReadMenace
SGT.Collado wrote:I saw a pic the other day a soldier with an AK. I was like W.T.F? He seemed to be in the streets somewhere so he was really using it.
And this is represented in PR when a player picks up an enemy kit. As for adding the PPSH into PR, I think it would make no more sense than adding any other weapon, including a Mosin Nagant. Yes, these weapons may be encountered in many AoE, but they're certainly not issued by any military.

As for why that Marine might be using that AK, it appears he is a gunner on a Humvee, and may not be issued a rifle for personal defense; this is where a battlefield pickup comes in handy. I recall a picture of a Humvee gunner who had an RPG-7 tucked in next to him.

-READ

Posted: 2007-01-22 01:19
by MMad
ReadMenace wrote:Yes, these weapons may be encountered in many AoE, but they're certainly not issued by any military.
Could work for insurgents, then. Would be fun, realistic and add more flavour to the game. :) Would be interesting if you spawned with a random gun..

Posted: 2007-01-22 01:19
by Skinwehr
I know a LOT of guys (and girls) in Iraq who are using AKs. Most of them because they HATE the M-16 and all it's cousins. The 223 round can't penetrate a cinder block (but the 7.62x39 will) and the m-16 is a really picky weapon when it gets dusty.

A friend of mine has a son in Iraq. He was always having us buy stuff for him that the military should be supplying. I even had to go through my closet and pull the laces out of my old boots for him. The last straw came when he said that a pack of dogs had invaded their camp looking for food. They ran them off by shooting at them but then suffered an ammunition shortage. He wanted us to send civilian mailorder ammo to his APO address (which isn't legal, it turns out).

To make a long story short. He now has an Ak-47 and can buy ammo locally, dirt cheap.