What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 15:28
by Mouthpiece
NOTE TO ADMINS and everyone who want to contribute to this post: This isn't a topic about exact people you dislike, some server or an admin group that you don't like. Instead of pointing fingers try to generalize as much as possible (learn to write like a politician - writing about an exact problem w/o using names/exact facts; use examples, be abstract!).
What I dislike the most right now?
There's nothing more I dislike that much as squad leaders who doesn't have the basic game sense needed to lead a squad. I'm talking about the most important factor - positioning of your squad on actual flags that are in play only leaving them to flank/maneuver/regroup/use trans/build a quick FOB. There's no other uses. And fuck super fobs. They're just a shit excuse to do nothing and farm some kills from noobs who run into such easily noticeable structures-of-death.
Good job buddy on keeping 7 people close together and far away from the game itself. But that's the least of your concerns. Press CAPSLOCK and look at the map - especially the fact which flags are in play and which are totally not.
Lately It's been happening on EVERY match - there's at least 1 or 2 full INF squads that are in middle of nowhere constructing FOBs d33p behind enemy lines while rest of their team are fighting for their last flag to stop the ticket bleed. I, a person who tends to SL myself on a regular basis notice this all the time because I'm am the one talking shit about them and talking shit to them in SL radio. Of course, I usually don't start talking shit at the beginning - instead I try to get some answers from the squadleader in question, but 90% of times he's just a clueless scrub hogging 7 people with him on a useless super fob or some other bullshit gimmick. Don't get me wrong - I suggest them things they should do instead or raging first, but 95% of times those people are stubborn as fuck and don't move principally. Come to think of it, stubbornness in this game is one of the most hated things (by me) close to this one I'm writing about. Like, this game should be anti-stubborn, made for tryhards (and by that I mean people who constantly think how to help their team more - maybe by doing that instead of this and maybe by switching their role altogether? But that's the problem - it's usually the opposite)
I seriously think that these kind of SL's are the worse apples of the game (YES, even worse then SNIPERS) and should be punished accordingly. IT TAKES 0 SKILL TO KEEP 7 PEOPLE CLOSE TOGETHER, don't fucking thank these SL's for that, it makes them think that they're good in the actual SL'ing process. Yet they suck in all other vital aspects.
P.S.
Thank you BASED admns for kicking/tb'ing these kinds of SL's, especially the disrespectful/stubborn types.
P.P.S.
Sorry for the rant-like-qualities in this thread. I think I get too carried away whilst thinking about this problem (as it's probably because I don't see a means to an end).
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:04
by viirusiiseli
Basically the same as yours. People who do anything else than go for the flags in AAS and people who do anything else than go for caches in insurgency aka the flanking squads. I know they think they'll do something quickly and then go to the flag after but usually either the round ends or the flags get capped before they do.
Rounds aren't long enough for that type of playing style. They used to be, but not anymore.
That and the mind-numbingly slow helicopters. Takes forever to get somewhere and doing trans is not fun anymore unless you have a lynx.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:07
by Jacksonez__
tl;dr but server crashes.
sorry
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:28
by Rabbit
viirusiiseli wrote:
That and the mind-numbingly slow helicopters. Takes forever to get somewhere and doing trans is not fun anymore unless you have a lynx.
Agree, trans helicopters suck atm.
Disagree with hating on FOBs, they are very important on maps like muttrah. If you dont have them as US your only hope of winning is having CAS farm kills.
That and maps being changed over to support transporting inf only if it APCs act as mech inf, its been done before many times, failed everytime, stop doing it (Kashan). Forcing players to play a certain way rather than just giving them the option to play that way is a shit idea that doesn't work.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:37
by sunshine2241991
I play this f2cking game , most amazing thing that happen to me , wasting time piss of hash , best game 3v3r , rage quiting sh`1 . game for 10 years .
And this is exactly what i Dislike and Like . you cant know if this evening you going to enjoy the game or not .
this game is so unpredictable its scary .
you can have the best Round / game ever , or you gonna rage quit so hard you windows will format itseLf .
because this mod is Heavy based on players .
Its really hard to find a good Squad that balance between Fun and tactical gaming . In the last half year i found my self 70% of the times or in Some 1337 quickscoping pro COD gamer squad where no body cooperating and everyone do what eva they want OR in some Super Hardcore Milsim Squad Where you need permission to speak .
But in rest 30% i can find some good people with some funny personality that can mix between good time and tactical gameplay
But the most thing that i DISLIKE is having small amount of transportation on maps (hummve , trucks and stuff)
and when you finely have transport chopper the pilot afraid to fly past the main base .
like " Bro Put me at H3 pls " Piloit : " Nah bro the best i can do is A13 "
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:49
by theDaarkness
I dislike the disconnect between the large influx of new players and the people that have been playing since 0.8. There's too many people that think they are hot shit tacticool but don't know how to play and dont want to hear otherwise and on the other side there's too many older players just telling these kids to shut up and get a brain. Everyone needs to find a middle ground sometime
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:57
by Rabbit
theDaarkness wrote:and the people that have been playing since 0.8.
I take it that is when you started?
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 16:58
by MaxTheSilva96
Guys who call contacts in squad chat.
I've seen people yelling things like "enemy at 150" in squad chat and them the rest of the squad goes bananas, and nobody notices that the guy who yelled is at the other side of the map.
That and all the bugs, crashes, lagginess, etc.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 17:04
by Brozef
Hate civilians and hate the fact that nobody ever tries to play CnC mode.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 17:30
by sweedensniiperr
Some maps: Insurgency maps, charlies point, barracuda
Mapvoting + maps that ARE NOT played enough. There cannot be ONE night without a server playing saareemaa.
Jacksonez__ wrote:tl;dr but server crashes.
Pretty much this. I can overcome most other things.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 17:37
by Gerfand
Brozef wrote:Hate civilians and hate the fact that nobody ever tries to play CnC mode.
well This because CnC is not as polished as AAS and INS, the same applies for VW, but I like that in the way it is now, as a Server filling up Tank Action for fun, until we get players for a decent AAS or INS
Now for me: is the APC crew that want the driver to hop out and throw smoke w/ the medic kit, so he can Thermal rape the enemies... I mean if you want to thermal rape your enemies, fine, but if you need to get smoke to save your vehicle, then you are very ineffective Crew, and should not be on the APC squad.. fun fact, I can survive w/ a 7.62 MTLB more than one guy like that in a BMP-3
2 .50 looking for the same spot in a defensive position, and the Fobs that are build on the most obvious position, and are abandoned just seconds latter so the enemy team can just destroy that
And impossible Charlies point and Pavlosk bay Layers
EDIT- also the fact that you can see some maps like ulyanovsk, Shijia Valley and some others only in DivSul, and even there is rare...
we really need some stats on map played and on win lost ratios
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 20:08
by iglotruck
Gerfand wrote:Now for me: is the APC crew that want the driver to hop out and throw smoke w/ the medic kit, so he can Thermal rape the enemies... I mean if you want to thermal rape your enemies, fine, but if you need to get smoke to save your vehicle, then you are very ineffective Crew, and should not be on the APC squad
You what now? Using smoke as cover for your vehicle is a legitimate tactic that and makes you invisible to enemy vehicles without thermals. If you find a good spot to hold, pop smoke and wait you will be the opposite of ineffective and you should definitely be in the APC squad.
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On top of my list is the amount of server crashes. There can be several nights where we attempt to get some good rounds in, but are always unable to finish because the servers are constantly crashing. I'm assuming, unfortunately, that there is little that can be done to prevent it.
Further down the list you'll find FOBs on flags (Kashan bunkers being an exception), "Recon" squads that almost always end up being a squad where people think they have an excuse to grab whatever cool kit they can get their hands on and take it to some irrelevant part of the map. Shit HATs, shit SLs, shit medics, shit wounded people, shit and non-communicative armor.
I'm also annoyed by the amount of people not taking the game seriously. This is of course a personal problem of mine, as it's perfectly fine to play a game without really giving a shit. I just wish people would say "Fuck man, this isn't good enough" instead of "Ooooh, close game guys!" over Mumble when losing with >150 tickets. Fuckin' step it up *******, I've got rounds to win!
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 21:01
by KingKong.CCCP
1. limitation of number of players per server to 100. It should be 128, with every weekend games of 200
2. lack of ideas to grow beyond BF2, to go for truly massive battles with hierarchy, player ranks and something even better. For example, ditch squads in game, organize everything in mumble, expand to mobile apps... stuff that was before normal. Every new PR version had something ingenious, now we're happy if there is a new map. Said that, I'm to blame for not joining dev team, true.
3. inability to mute people quickly on SQ Leader radio
4. inability to mute people quickly on SQ radio
5. not enough rifleman style of players, less tough players then before (thou overall the game population is better then ever), nobody cares about shooting, everybody spam constantly while talking to themselves
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 21:08
by Gerfand
iglotruck wrote:You what now? Using smoke as cover for your vehicle is a legitimate tactic that and makes you invisible to enemy vehicles without thermals. If you find a good spot to hold, pop smoke and wait you will be the opposite of ineffective and you should definitely be in the APC squad.
Not really, if you pop smoke on the apc, the enemy will not see you if he does not have thermals, but he will know that you are there, and he, and the rest of the team can still fire there, so you don't become invisible, or invincible(which the thermal rape make you belive in), it just give you concealment.
But I sad that because every time I see this on use, the crew on the APC is inclined to use this tactic over something else, like Hull down.
before the Thermal Smoke, I saw an Apc Squad on muttrah, using that against an enemy Apc Squad that never came, and he got both Apcs flanked by a Inf Squad, that, if saw the smoke thought that was an APC and decided to not engage then, and by a APC that just rushed the next flag
And more recently I was driving a Warrior on Al Basrah, when we got Hit by an RPG and I decide to Run to the base for repairs, and the gunner started yelling at me to stop the APC that was in the middle of the bridge so I could get the Med kit and then he would be able to thermal rape the enemy, even if there was Rpgs on both the mansion and to the North in the main city, and both were less than 300M close
And if you get on a good position, you don't need smoke, as you good position will provide cover/concealment and smoke would just give your position away, and this is why I wrote w/ another color that I was able to survive w/ a MT-LB, more time than a guy in a BMP-3
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-29 21:38
by sweedensniiperr
Gerfand wrote:-
The examples you provided is not an argument against smoking your apc rather it is examples of poor play.
Let me rephrase something that was said before:
-people that are stubborn
the problem is that some people think that this make then invincible and base their entire armor strat on that... and this is what get then killed.
The example that you give, he use 2 times ,w/ the first being on a moment that he did not really needed, and not only that, by exiting the vehicle he exposed himself to enemy fire.
Couter Example
I also prefer to not use this tact as it blinds my identification of threats, and I don't want to kill a Friend LAT because I never turn my thermal off...(I don't like the smoke on TOW too)
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-30 00:55
by SkyEmperor
I hate blind people on this game, especially when they are driving a logi away from my burning tank or ignoring repairs commo rose message.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-30 04:15
by Cossack
Insurgency and majority of the people playing PR.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-30 04:18
by carmikaze
MaxTheSilva96 wrote:Guys who call contacts in squad chat.
I've seen people yelling things like "enemy at 150" in squad chat and them the rest of the squad goes bananas, and nobody notices that the guy who yelled is at the other side of the map.
My sides hurt.
Re: What do you DISLIKE in current state of PR (2016)?
Posted: 2016-06-30 04:44
by matty1053
Consistantly overplayed maps. Like FFS try something new.
Map voting. So broken it's pathetic.
Insurgency. A complete cluster **** on some rounds. No one takes insurgency seriously anymore on the Blufor imo.
Squad Leaders who constantly talk on SQL Chat... like use it to share Intel. Not you have to reload your gun.
Rounds ending way to quickly. I know a lot of people will agree with me, that rounds are too short.
People who don't wait for medics. Self explanatory.
FOB's and deployables placed in lala-land. Why is there a mega fob at the other side of the map?
Locked Squads. This is a minor issue.
Admins that favor certain people. I see this on one server, others are perfect.