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Can someone remind me why Insurgents get mortars but Blufor does not?

Because BLUFOR can move their FOB locations/positions, but the insurgents can't move their caches.

I think that was the reasoning.

And what happens when Blufor can't move them around real easy either because of the map or no air support? The one sided mortars break this game mode completely. So can one of the devs please tell me why there must be mortars at all in insurgency?

You are still able to move FOBs if you try real hard. But you are incapable of moving a cache period.

Anyway i got no dog in this race, i don't care if BLUFOR gets mortars or not.
I just told you the reasoning i remembered the DEVs stated.

Brozef wrote:And what happens when Blufor can't move them around real easy either because of the map or no air support? The one sided mortars break this game mode completely. So can one of the devs please tell me why there must be mortars at all in insurgency?

Basically you can just sit on mortars and aim the cache forever, It doesn't take any intel, teamwork or talent. You can kill all built defenses, and it makes many caches trivial.

Insurgents still get mortars to kill the giant blufor firebases that they shouldn't be sitting on anyhow.. They have removed mortars when they think they are too op for some factions (Like ARF)

a fact to add:
mortar v mortar, ins mortars are not the same as regular force's

Give Ins 4 pits, and blufor 2. XD

FFG wrote:Give Ins 4 pits, and blufor 2. XD

give blufor only 1

we used to run into mortar fire as civilians, it was satisfying to see those filthy mortar campers get - points. But as stated above: it was annoying when cache was shelled without breaks.

Honestly I would like to see mortars removed from all INS game modes for both sides. Area attacks are more than enough most of the time to remove pesky FOBs. But giving one side mortars while the other is forced to constantly replace FOBs rather than attack caches that is game breaking on many INS maps.

Blufor has UAV so giving Opfor mortars is kinda balancing.
Another annoying thing are all the bob the builder SLs who prefer staying on their AAs against insurgents instead of attacking the cache...

And that's why they should add a much tighter time limit to INS. Seeing Blufor camp all the fucking time is dreadful.

The large spawn delay now on first cache is actually pretty good. It would help with setting up caches on pub servers if all caches too 10 minutes to be known.

Set a 45min timer to INS, each destroyed cahce adds 20min to the timer. So if blufor is just farming kills it ends in 45min.

I like that idea actualy, though for seeding purposes it may be bad to have maps ending when bluefor doesnt take down cache's.



D.J.

Nice suggestion mr banned.

Actually INS shouldn't be used for seeding. The good old days when people seeded on skirmish...

INS is still the best way to seed though, has the highest player retention. Skirmish can be really frustrating. Maybe if they lowered the respawn time, but i'm not sure that's possible..

Maybe make another game mode called 'Blitz' and make it INS with the time limitations mr ban proposed.

I'd say keep INS, it sometimes is cancer, but casuals fucking love it and it pretty much is the best mode for seeding sadly.

Flags make more people rage quit than caches on low population. INS is best mode to seed.

[R-DEV]Max_ wrote:Flags make more people rage quit than caches on low population. INS is best mode to seed.

We're not really discussing that atm. We're talking about making INS more fun.