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THIS IS NOT WHAT IS SEEMS LIKE AT FIRST. I DONT SUGGEST A 3RD NEEDED CREWMAN FOR VEHICLES.


Thank you! My suggestion is simple: Give another seat to Tanks, AAVs, and ATMs. That seat only has the commander view and also requires a crewman. The driver and gunner seat do not lose anything.

The reason for this came when I was driving a scimitar. In order to cut the engine I had to get out of it. And the entrance was on top as well. So hopping back in in case of an attack on us would most likely not have worked (it didnt, infy picked me off). Same with Tanks: When getting into the 3rd seat you can take cover, but people can still shoot you out.

TLDR:
- Add another seat to Tanks, AAVs, ATMs
- Seat requires a crewman
- Seat only has the commander's view (or drivers view in case there is no commander's view)
- Meant for engine cutting etc.
- NOT meant for milsim crew commanders
- The other seats or their visions do not change

Here you go camo

But the fact that is risky is what balances the current meta of sound checks.

If was not for that then there would be absolutely no risk in doing sounds checks

Need delay between switch from 1st(driver) to 3rd(commander)places.

maybe commander camera has a 20 second warm up time?

[R-CON]UTurista wrote:But the fact that is risky is what balances the current meta of sound checks.

If was not for that then there would be absolutely no risk in doing sounds checks

No, in order to hear entirely, one needs to hop out of the vehicle. 3rd seat offers limited audibility.

Wouldn't it be easier to just have a button to cut off the engine entirely?

Could it be possible that the current third seat has 3 options:

- MG station
- inside of the turret with commander optics
- MG station with binos in hand and 360 turn ability?

Thats irl.

The RC-10 is the worst. When you jump out on a small bump to do a sound check, your gunner needs to aim down for you to jump back inside. If not you gonna have hard time jumping back :/

Its really good idea to do 3rd sit, but also you could change exit place from the side to the top of the vechicle.

Any updates on this? Or are you expecting the community to do it?

The models don't need a whole rework or hatch. Just put the seat where the player sticks out the top. Wonky, but functional.

doop-de-doo wrote:

The models don't need a whole rework or hatch. Just put the seat where the player sticks out the top. Wonky, but functional.

No it doesnt. The idea was to have an "idle" seat inside the vehicle to cut engine. Read first post. Only code needs additions

This promotes silly unrealistic behavior, that break immersion. I suppose in battle, tank crews keep their engine on in case to instantly retreat or change position in heated battle environment. They don't kill their engines every minute on off and be all ninja like, hearing stuff, they have recon teams for that. Do they do it in real life? If to implement this feature then, tank driver should also have warming up timer.

Also the sound gives the vulnerable infantry in PR a chance, awareness.

I already expressed my opinion, but since this was bumped, I may express it again.

I honestly don't know how anyone would think this would be a good idea. This is literally like saying players should have shields to not die while they're shooting - Its such an inconvenient when that happens.

Sound checks in PR, or simply having no engine sounds, have a big impact in the game. You can listen for enemies approaching while remain 'hidden".
And even with the limited audio that you would get for being inside, it would always be better than simply having the engine on, while keeping the full advantage of not being heard by enemy players.

This feature shouldn't even exist, the tank should always keep the engine sound, either with the driver or gunner in it but I don't believe this is possible.
So the best thing we can do is allow players to do "turn of" the engine but with the risk of being killed.

Such a thing as holding left alt

Not possible to blackscreen gunner with no driver?

Raidonrai wrote:Not possible to blackscreen gunner with no driver?

Would be nice if the batteries of a tank can ran out of power and the gunners vision get reduced overtime as long as the engine is off like the NVG's did in BF2 Special Forces. ??:

Avatok wrote:Need delay between switch from 1st(driver) to 3rd(commander)places.

Not posibble unfortunately with the engine

'[R-CON wrote:Hokunin;2183239']This promotes silly unrealistic behavior, that break immersion. I suppose in battle, tank crews keep their engine on in case to instantly retreat or change position in heated battle environment. They don't kill their engines every minute on off and be all ninja like, hearing stuff, they have recon teams for that. Do they do it in real life? If to implement this feature then, tank driver should also have warming up timer.

Also the sound gives the vulnerable infantry in PR a chance, awareness.

They do it. During the Bosnian war, tanks and not only tanks but also light apc and some ifvs -on both side - had to shutdown their engine as soon as they went into fire position in the mountains because their sound would expose the closest friendlies around.

Adding a warming up timer would definitely prevent the seat switching abuse.

'[R-CON wrote:Hokunin;2183239']This promotes silly unrealistic behavior, that break immersion.[/B]

as much as I respect you devs, please don't bring this argument.
I could start listing everything that makes the game unrealistic right now,but the only difference is that you get the last word on it by deciding whether to code it or not.