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Everything considered, at the moment I can't think of a WW2 FPS better than PR:WW2.
The only competition I can think of is Day of Infamy or Post Scriptum, but those both don't feel as good as PR:WW2 does atm.

DOI is just too small and doesn't really fit the scale of WW2, although it's ballistics and suppression are pretty nice. it does a good job of a realistic but casual shooter

PS is alright but not as fleshed out nor to scale, however this is probably all I have to complain about it(aside from optimization but that has something to do with SQ). it's probably the main opposition in terms of WW2.

CODWW2 is .. not sure..... the singleplayer looks alright but it usually is pretty good in all honesty, although a lot of it can be cliche that doesn't mean that it isn't immersive, because it really is quite a bit. the MP looks pretty bad but, when has it ever looked any different in the past? this SP mode does look a bit better than it's past though.

don't even start with some **** like H&G..

edit: I forgot about RO2 and it's RS and HOTW expansion and mod.
that is up there with some of hte best shooters, but it does lack the teamwork aspect just like DOI. of course the mechanics are there for great team play, just no one uses it.

How the hell are you still playing it?

Last I remember it was pretty unbalanced but still miles ahead of the nearest commercial offering. Although FH2 has the potential to overtake if they finally go standalone

PRWW2 has its own style and it is real good and I am looking forward to play it again. but I don't understand why PRWW2 developers don't release it ( embeding it on main PR )?

It's not even released and considering they're now working on a commercial project I doubt it ever will be. Was a lot of fun to play in the tests.

indeed I guessed kind of like you too. I think it will be released but too late because of that commercial project.

You guys really think a developer would work on something for years, to not release it... Believe me, every single soul in our team wants pr ww2 to be released. However, we still have new content in the works, and since development takes time, you guys got to wait a bit. The Only way to speed things up is by making yourself useful and help the ww2 devs.

Stay on topic.

I really think pr will be the best ww2 experience for a pr player. Simply because gameplay will be pr in a ww2 theme.




D.J.

PR doesn't have anything to do with "that commercial product", but we're just low on devs - and we have plenty of other things to _also_ do. Unfortunately it isn't just a matter of copy/paste.

Well PRWWII is not out atm, but during its time it was definitely the best regarding teamwork and communication (not historical accuracy/realism). When it will re-release who knows? Traction Wars, Enlisted, Hell Let Loose, etc. will come out this year and/or next year and by then PR:WWII might not be the best WWII game, although definitely in the top 5.

Hell Let Loose...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdQjxQy-cAE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFZmTaeM2g8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxNA2qSBMaw

But rly what is the point of this thread? For us to advertise other games?? We are in PR forums lol...

I think it will be...

QuickLoad wrote:
CODWW2 is .. not sure......

Watching the gameplay videos... To me it just looks like another prettied up version of the same thing its been since Modern Warfare. Too bad a remastered COD1 or 2 would not be popular today. No power upgrades, no ranking system, no gun mods.

Cpt. Sniper wrote:Watching the gameplay videos... To me it just looks like another prettied up version of the same thing its been since Modern Warfare. Too bad a remastered COD1 or 2 would not be popular today. No power upgrades, no ranking system, no gun mods.

can't help but agree, with every game it's not really much changes at all.
similar map sizes, similar mechanics(of course theres one or two jumpy ones like drones in 1 game, wall running on another) but it's really again down to..
small maps, kill streaks, and a linear but maybe immersive storyline.

edit: also i recently got DOI on sale for 9.89 and hell i love it.
it's one of my favorite casual shooters and hits the spot for casual play and immersion. it's still compareable to RO/RO2 where there's mechanics implemetned for teamwork but not a lot of people use it. DOI noticed this and went with a more of a solo-kit system where everyone is independant instead of forcefully grouped into squads(no one even used the squads anyways).

so heres the teamwork mechanics:
an officer needs an RTO to do officer jobs(aside from issuing general attack defense regroup flanking orders), he calls in artillery barrages, cas, supply drop.
there can be multiple officers and RTOs on a team, generally you want all the kits selected but a lot of people don't like the officer because of it's responsibilities. usually a good team will have all their assets chosen, a good hunk of riflemen(infinite kits) two RTOs and one officer.
editedit: also, when playing on defense of a attack/defend layout, a member has to fall back to a certain point behind his/her line to a location to call in reinforcements(and thus respawn his team)

a neat thing I noticed from playing lots of officer is that you can communicate with RTOs.
so.. basically all mic chat is local chat, enemies can hear you so can teamates, but it's all local.

when an officer talks, you can hear him talking to command, and command can be heard speaking out of the RTO's radio.
the interesting thing is, if there's a second RTO across the map, he can hear the officer AND command talking, and this can inform the nearby friendlies(and enemies if they can speak the enemy language) that blah blah is being called.

at the same time, if the officer talks with his mic on local chat to his RTO, the RTO across the map will broadcast what's being said to the 1st RTO, locally to the 2nd RTO. that is FUCKING amazing. like I can't get over how fucking insanely cool that mechanic is.

also the RTO can have their radio boxes shot, and command will question what's going on if the officer is shot mid sentence, command also confirms the shot over and splash. but those aren't as important.

so.. tldr: is day of infamy related to PR? not really.
is day of infamy cool as fuck? yeah.
can some mechanics of DOI be used to inspire PR? maybe...
i also noticed that DOI took a lot of mechanics from RO/RO2, insurgency(of course) and PR, they really took the best of some of the best games and made it a great FPS.(edit: they also have insane ballistics, so maybe they took some from R6?)

It's the only WWII game that I would even bother with since I'm personally not to particularly fond of that era and really only care about the Americans, but I would like to point out that the devs got it right with the slow paced warfare and it was the shit back in v0.981 and probably will be even more fun once they decide to release it once again.

I would like to mention Forgotten Hope 2 which looks good for an arcade shooter, but since they don't seem to care about ever going standalone or use mumble, I don't even bother playing it, because I don't want the hassle of a full bf2 installation or low quality voip (which is a shame considering all the effort they have put into it...) but maybe one day they'll come to their senses and change the game for the better.

Raklodder wrote: I would like to mention Forgotten Hope 2 which looks good for an arcade shooter, but since they don't seem to care about ever going standalone or use mumble, I don't even bother playing it, because I don't want the hassle of a full bf2 installation or low quality voip (which is a shame considering all the effort they have put into it...) but maybe one day they'll come to their senses and change the game for the better.

FH2 is cancer man, it's a vicious circle of spawning, rushing and dying. I used to make "Teamwork" squads, but very few times are people up to it. For some reason I believe that BF1942 was even slower than FH2...

FH2 is cancer man.....

Nah, it isn't cancer. Please don't say this. Its a really good made BF2 Mod total conversion with another gameplay and not cancer.

.... it's a vicious circle of spawning, rushing and dying

Use Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B Tiger II (Sd.Kfz. 182) and you are the KING of the Battlefield.

Jabil_One wrote:Nah, it isn't cancer. Please don't say this. Its a really good made BF2 Mod total conversion with another gameplay and not cancer.

Use Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B Tiger II (Sd.Kfz. 182) and you are the KING of the Battlefield.

Well yeah, I mean before playing PR it was fine, but then after playing it, it is cancer, I mean, it's one of the most realistic WWII games in terms of historical accuracy (weapons, vehicles, maps, etc.) but it's such a fast gameplay and there's really no teamwork unless you join Forgotten Honor Campaigns. The DEVS pratically gave up on it, I never see anything new going on to "revive" the game, it's a shame really.

I don't do much armor, usually SL "Teamwork" inf squads.

Its good fun with friends. Epic rushes with bullets flying around, long shot tank charges, waiting in the Bastogne forests like in CoD1 UO and so on and so on. If it was slower paced, I probably wouldnt even touch PR lol.

PRWW2 will be amazing because there will never be complains about FLARES and HEATSEEKING missiles only CAS is to OP threads

Heavy Death wrote:Its good fun with friends. Epic rushes with bullets flying around, long shot tank charges, waiting in the Bastogne forests like in CoD1 UO and so on and so on. If it was slower paced, I probably wouldnt even touch PR lol.

Exactly!

Raklodder wrote:It's the only WWII game that I would even bother with since I'm personally not to particularly fond of that era and really only care about the Americans, but I would like to point out that the devs got it right with the slow paced warfare and it was the shit back in v0.981 and probably will be even more fun once they decide to release it once again.

I would like to mention Forgotten Hope 2 which looks good for an arcade shooter, but since they don't seem to care about ever going standalone or use mumble, I don't even bother playing it, because I don't want the hassle of a full bf2 installation or low quality voip (which is a shame considering all the effort they have put into it...) but maybe one day they'll come to their senses and change the game for the better.

I agree, PRWW2 was perfect, I hope the basic mechanics haven't changed much.

FH2 is neat, it's between BF2 and PR, you don't really need to use a squad(at all), it would be better but not that much more beneficial. People die in a couple of shots which is very nice for gameplay, but the voip is bad, bf2 installation is bad, so yeah you're right there.

Playerbase can be judged by ease of installation a lot, easier to install = more players that will come to TRY it out. if it's hard to install people might just not bother to even try it.(and that takes away from the overall amount that are regulars)

Jabil_One wrote:Nah, it isn't cancer. Please don't say this. Its a really good made BF2 Mod total conversion with another gameplay and not cancer.



Use Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B Tiger II (Sd.Kfz. 182) and you are the KING of the Battlefield.

it is a good BF2 mod total conversion, yeah but saying that using the TIGER II makes you the king of the battlefield can explain how it might be cancer.

Jabil_One wrote:PRWW2 will be amazing because there will never be complains about FLARES and HEATSEEKING missiles only CAS is to OP threads

i agree