I was remembering the other day that BF2 Special Forces had tear gas as a weapon (or somesuch) which required you to use a gas mask to counter.
Did anyone ever talk about using that same kind of effect for the current smoke grenades? I'd imagine standing in smoke would be an awful experience off one of those.
Maybe it would make smoke too useful as an offensive weapon in game?
Searching found nothing; maybe using the wrong words.
M.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 02:46
by X1 Spriggan
Please please please. I play medic the most, and I complain how unrealistic it is for me to revive somebody on top of a smoke grenade. Smoke would also do a decent job room clearing too doing a small amount of damage, but the problem with that is the effect goes through walls. I'm not sure how the damage model works.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 06:12
by QuickLoad
could make your eyes watery/stingy so some sort of a distortion effect?
im pretty sure no one ingame has full seal eye pro so it'd make sense, would be a nice mechanic to have.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 09:42
by Filamu
Same mechanic is used for suppression afaik, so not gonna happen.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 09:48
by AlonTavor
Pretty sure that's why molotovs we're removed. Too buggy with walls.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 13:06
by Rabbit
[R-DEV]AlonTavor wrote:Pretty sure that's why molotovs we're removed. Too buggy with walls.
And vehicles But pretty sure that was fixed.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 14:21
by Outlawz7
The tear gas in BF2SF went thru walls, same as smoke.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 14:44
by FlyingR
'[R-DEV wrote:Outlawz7;2170280']The tear gas in BF2SF went thru walls, same as smoke.
That's actually pretty sick, would definite be fun
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 15:05
by mectus11
Fun =/= good gameplay mechanic
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 15:16
by Raklodder
Would be kind of cool with riot control, but since everyone has a gun (ex. civilians), it wouldn't be balanced.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 16:03
by Mats391
Gas cloud is used for black and white effect.
Additionally to going through walls, the effect also might start instantly once you enter the cloud. Not sure if that is adjustable. For smoke would have to site quite some time in it to have any effect. You certainly dont want to stop sprinting just cause you enter smoke cloud.
Another thing is that it would not apply to vehicles/emplacements. So the biggest nuisance of perma smoked TOW could not be solved by this.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 18:33
by Expendable Grunt
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Gas cloud is used for black and white effect.
Additionally to going through walls, the effect also might start instantly once you enter the cloud. Not sure if that is adjustable. For smoke would have to site quite some time in it to have any effect. You certainly dont want to stop sprinting just cause you enter smoke cloud.
Another thing is that it would not apply to vehicles/emplacements. So the biggest nuisance of perma smoked TOW could not be solved by this.
Well, there it is - clear and concise reasons. Bummer!
M.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 21:12
by Mouthpiece
Yeah, and while you're at it, please do make an ANTIFA faction (with such instant classic kits as "The Gender Bender" also called "Woman?" with the question mark being obligatory and also "The Snowflake" and "Anonymous"; eh, there's so many interesting options), and maybe even a rival FASCISTS or REDPILL'd faction. And give both of the factions gas grenades, stones, sticks and different less then lethal shit. Sounds fun.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-04 21:55
by LiamBai
Mouthpiece wrote:Yeah, and while you're at it, please do make an ANTIFA faction (with such instant classic kits as "The Gender Bender" also called "Woman?" with the question mark being obligatory and also "The Snowflake" and "Anonymous"; eh, there's so many interesting options), and maybe even a rival FASCISTS or REDPILL'd faction. And give both of the factions gas grenades, stones, sticks and different less then lethal shit. Sounds fun.
None of our current player models are fat enough for any of these.
Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-05 00:56
by Max_
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Re: Choking on Smoke
Posted: 2017-08-05 04:20
by Ratface
[For what it's worth, I love the idea, that shit can choke you up hard. But I lean towards since smoke doesn't respect collisions it could probably be exploited like the molotovs were way back when]