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In my experience the game has a problem with self-important, egomaniac squad leaders that kick people left right and center form their squads for no wrong-doing of the person what so ever. I observe this all the time and it certainly does not make new players want to stay, including determined ones like myself. Some of the occurrences were:

- A guy gets in the wrong truck at main, he gets off while the truck started driving, running the guy over. KICKED.

- A guy playing medic could not find the SL to revive him. KICKED.

- SL makes some unintelligible contact report in broken English, heavy accent and massive microphone static or background noise to me. I don't spot the contact he meant and shoot at the wrong target because the utterance was unintelligible. KICKED.

- A guy explaining a tactical error to the SL. KICKED.

- An SL making a badly explained order to me, resulting in an execution not quite to his liking. KICKED.

- A guy asking whether the SL needs a second medic. No answer. Guy spawns rifleman or something. SL complains, why he did not ask whether the squad need a second medic. KICKED.



This is infuriating, to be honest and a terrible example of gaming culture. Egomaniac SLs that seem to need to compensate for shit in their real lives by letting it out on other players for utterly ridiculous reasons, including their own errors, need to get their shit together. I for one find my experience in the game greatly diminished by this kind of behavior and it would likely be in the interest of the game as a whole to remind people, that being SL does not give them the license to be a massive prick (e.g. in loading screen texts) and damaging the playerbase by making people less inclined to play the game and thereby subject themselves to this kind of treatment.

I am all for tight and coordinated teamplay. But it needs to be fair and enjoyable. If somebody is unwilling to coordinate, kick him. If he made a mistake or had bad luck, give him a break. This is a game after all. The community is already small. Fostering a welcoming and fair culture should be obvious as a necessity. Don't let pricks on an ego-trip damage the community unhindered.

Become an SL yourself then.
Lets see how long your patience lasts with todays retards

The cases I listed were not instances of people acting retarded. Even if somebody acts in an allegedly retarded way: Benefit of the doubt and don't be prick. I am not talking about disruptive behavior like firing the MG of a tank in the air for no reasons etc.

Well dont join peoples squads when you cant understand what a medic kit is.


Is it LionHardt btw?

UncleSmek wrote:Well dont join peoples squads when you cant understand what a medic kit is.

What is that nonsensical statement? This makes no sense what so ever in regards to what I wrote.

Apart from that, that statements even makes no sense in isolation. Of course a completely new player should join a squad, even if he didn't know what a medic kit was. But this is irrelevant, as this has nothing to do with the topic.

UncleSmek wrote: Is it LionHardt btw?

Yes

-Evilhardt you wrote a nice text,but you forgot something it is very important."Names"
-We work with living people here,so we need names if you complain about someone.So when we find out the names, we'll talk to them.So we will solve your inconveniences in the game play.


-greeting


There's no real flame on your screen, it's just magic. :d rillserg

The main problem now is SLs don't bother teaching new players, they stick to playing with their friends/clans mainly and lock the squad.

New players end up not knowing much about the game, this wasn't the case a few years ago and I hope it changes.

UncleSmek wrote:Well dont join peoples squads when you cant understand what a medic kit is.


Is it LionHardt btw?

No self awareness to be found here whatsoever. You are a prime example of what OP was talking about.

OP, in my opinion many good people left PR long ago and migrated to SQUAD or other competitors or simply stopped playing. For example Spook, he is a 3dac guy but i respect him because he wasn't toxic and and willing to help out others and teach them. When i started out in CAS he taught me some useful beginner's tips and wasn't arrogant or dismissive of my lack of game knowledge. This simply is hard to come by in today's environment, especially among asset players.

I have this hypothesis that many regulars and clan players who stayed are either people with a lot of emotional investment in this game unwilling to let go, like the specific gameplay, or in a lot of cases are toxic people who don't want to leave because with the condensed playerbase they now have the perfect environment in this game to indulge in their worst impulses, like narcissistic behaviour, abusing others and being generally toxic.

Perfect environment because they can get away with a more and more the smaller the 'known' playerbase becomes, admins will tolerate more of their BS because they don't wanna scare away some of the last knowledgeable players and clans that seed the server and stabalize teams. That explains a majority of what you have been experiencing in my opinion. If you find this state of things too irritating then i advice you to wait until PR:WW2 releases, it should be a lot better at release once a lot of new and old players flock in, people will be more open to newcomers and friendlier in general.

I haven't encountered this, but then again I don't play as much in pub squad anyway. To me it seems like yes, this squad leader should at least give the squadmates a chance before kicking them.

- Don't like hearing that you made an error without constructive criticism? Ok tell him and if he does it again you can kick.
- no response and then spawn. now SLs could be talking on SLchat and maybe not hearing the message. Too be fair unless i hear a go ahead and spawn with whatever you want, I won't spawn at all.

DogACTUAL wrote:No self awareness to be found here whatsoever. You are a prime example of what OP was talking about.

Here we go with the autism again.. no one reads your damn depositions dogactual.

Secondly, Lionhardt, I played with you the day you wrote this and I Did kick you from the squad mainly cause i told you to grab a medic kit and you ended up grabbing a grenadier.

Like Mectus said, many of the squad leaders expect a certain level of skill/focus/motivation/enthusiasm and rarely do you get a nice match since most people do not have time/will to explain things to you.

Time to squad lead yourself or just be a good boy and listen to every word the SL tells you. I know its a game blabla but nobody cares if you get your feelings hurt buddy.

Are you "infinity" something ingame? Then no, you did fucking not tell me. I asked twice and got no answer. Then I spawned as you were still relatively close to the only spawn point in the vicinity, so I could possibly still catch up, but quickly moving away from it. So I decided to take the initiative. Then you asked "why didn't you ask if we need a second medic?" *kick*

Then I wrote to you in team that I DID ask and you replied "I don't care, find another squad"

So stop telling lies.

UncleSmek wrote: I know its a game blabla but nobody cares if you get your feelings hurt buddy.

Again, you demonstrate that you do not get what I am saying. Btw, I even got a private message reply to this thread of a guy telling me that he had the same kind of shitty experience with SLs being dicks. So yea, people do care if they have a bad experience due to people like you.

Anyway, not intending to play with you as SL ever again.

Yeah fucking infinity something. Stop SLing like a ****. Also I dont even think of being SL myself because fuck that. I rather tell other more experienced people what to do.

Take that infinity something

Smek funny that you call me autistic when you literally incoherently scream and insult everyone in the game when some minor thing upsets you, like you got the heaviest form of autism where you sperg when your mommy does your sandwich wrong lol. You must be among the most retarded people in this community by far. Everyone i talk to mentions you on their own as being a tool and everyone has a story where you sperged at them.

You are exactly who this thread is about. Pretty much.

DogACTUAL wrote:Smek funny that you call me autistic when you literally incoherently scream and insult everyone in the game when some minor thing upsets you, like you got the heaviest form of autism where you sperg when your mommy does your sandwich wrong lol. You must be among the most retarded people in this community by far. Everyone i talk to mentions you on their own as being a tool and everyone has a story where you sperged at them.

You are exactly who this thread is about. Pretty much.

First of all I am gluten intolerant so I can't even make myself or have someone else make me a sandwich so your insult falls a bit short there..

Secondly, if you join someones squads you should respect their decision to physically remove you from the squad its even stated in most server rules that SL's have this power to do so if they like.

UncleSmek wrote:Secondly, if you join someones squads you should respect their decision to physically remove you from the squad its even stated in most server rules that SL's have this power to do so if they like.

lol, that is exactly what an autistic person would say!

Also, it is not "physically" removing them... to be autistic about it.

As I said in my OP, that rule is hardly intended to be a license for being a prick!

@CAS_ual_TY

You too demonstrated again, that you fall in that exact same category as Smek and don't understand what I am saying and that this arrogant and elitist behavior drives people away. I am not talking about not listening to more experienced players. I am talking about decency and fair treatment of other players.

The people saying you should only join a squad if you are experienced and know how to use every kit are the same as those companies demanding years of prior experience for their shitty entry level jobs lol

@Smek: Sorry that you have to find out this way, but abstaining from gluten didn't cure your autism, it was just placebo:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23688532
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/study-glutencasein-free-diet-doesnt-improve-autism-symptoms

It is just a myth soccer moms came up with.

the truth of it without writing an essay is that most of us that have stayed this long and are as you say emotionally invested in the game is because we all play the game pretty good and we like playing with each other since you can expect most of the regular players to have a certain skillset which you expect your teammates to have when you play milsim games. You would never be able to dream of the quality of gameplay we have in PR when we are not bothered by griefers and I love this community for that reason, cause everyone is so damn good at what they do. That is what brings me back to this game even now after most of the people have migrated to squad and other games.

Speaking from experience, where I have squad leaded probably more then anyone else in PR (in hours) I can easily admit that I have egomaniacal tendencies but its because i am one of the best at what I do and instead of sitting crying about it you can learn a thing or two

*If you'd be humble enough to accept my superiority in skills which you for one dogactual will in this life never amount to, i hope you dont take that personally since its pure fact.

UncleSmek wrote:the truth of it without writing an essay is that most of us that have stayed this long and are as you say emotionally invested in the game is because we all play the game pretty good and we like playing with each other since you can expect most of the regular players to have a certain skillset which you expect your teammates to have when you play milsim games. You would never be able to dream of the quality of gameplay we have in PR when we are not bothered by griefers and I love this community for that reason, cause everyone is so damn good at what they do. That is what brings me back to this game even now after most of the people have migrated to squad and other games.

Speaking from experience, where I have squad leaded probably more then anyone else in PR (in hours) I can easily admit that I have egomaniacal tendencies but its because i am one of the best at what I do and instead of sitting crying about it you can learn a thing or two

*If you'd be humble enough to accept my superiority in skills which you for one dogactual will in this life never amount to, i hope you dont take that personally since its pure fact.

And you still don't get it. That is also a pure fact. But I cannot be bothered to explain the difference between what I am saying and what you for some reasons think I (and to some degree DogActual) am saying, since my post where I did explain it, and also the post of DogActual where he did point out the difference, were deleted, since apparently it is considered impolite to call a spade a spade, but strawmanning and passive aggressive remarks, like "Well don't join peoples squads when you can't understand what a medic kit is", that are in top of that counterfactual and utterly besides the point are just fine.

I am done here.

I understand and as Tiberius once said in his ancient wisdom: "There is no greater smek than to smeked by Smek"