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Hi everyone
When playing on mec side i'm always getting upset from firing g3 on close distances, because of that cosmic recoill and one day i thought about making something that could replace or be an alternative to g3. My choice turned out to be hk 33, because mec is using other hk weapons and hk 33 has caliber (5.56) like e.g. m4s. I've started working on model some time ago and i think i making something wrong, but I don't know what.

Here are some screenshots from blender and please if you can tell me what can I improve in that model:










Small bonus some screens from my wip map:

Nice work so far! Hk33 rifle would be an awesome add to the PR weapons indeed! What would be the factions on that new map your working on?

Which army are you modelling this after? MEC is loosely based on combination of several middle-east countries. Looking around a bit the HK33 does not seem to be in active use that much anymore.
Also I suggest to keep your map related posts out of this to not derail the thread.

Yeah I would open up a new thread for your map for feedback.

And that is main problem with mec faction, because it's totaly fictional, so why it couldn't have some uniqe weapons like hk33. According to wiki some countries like Iran, Lebaon, Turkey and Saudi Arabia that in my opinion are qualified to mec have still in use some of hk33 variants, not as primary weapon but still. Many players also complaining about g3 mainly because of it's recoil and other problems, so why mec couldn't have some alternative weapon.

About map I need to fix some issues and then I will post individual topic and now I can delete these images if you want.

I feel like the HK33 would be nice for variety's sake. Add it to some special kits like HAT or Spotter, or maybe even make a MEC subfaction and have them be equipped with the HK33 instead of the G3. Would be nice to have a MEC marine faction for instance, and they could use the 33. Especially now that we have a map where MEC has a ship main.

Of course making a MEC marine faction would probably require some retexturing work to be done and maybe some new vehicle models, just so that it wouldn't be MEC with a different weapon.

izmash wrote:And that is main problem with mec faction, because it's totaly fictional, so why it couldn't have some uniqe weapons like hk33. According to wiki some countries like Iran, Lebaon, Turkey and Saudi Arabia that in my opinion are qualified to mec have still in use some of hk33 variants, not as primary weapon but still. Many players also complaining about g3 mainly because of it's recoil and other problems, so why mec couldn't have some alternative weapon.

It is the main advantage of MEC as we have lots of freedom. Just interested in why the HK-33 and not something else. The wiki pages of armies (especially middle-eastern countries) are not that helpful as they basically list every weapon you can buy.

Mats391 wrote:It is the main advantage of MEC as we have lots of freedom. Just interested in why the HK-33 and not something else.

Not much else that hasnt already been shot down.

As I said earlier g3 is common weapon in middle east and sorunding countries, many are using mp5 which is H&K production as well, so why wouldn't be another HK product. Other alternatives in my opinion are diffrent versions of ak like ak-101 or ak-103 or other variants, M4/M16, Chinese NORINCO M4 or AK copy and many more common and boring weapons. For example these countries are using in alternative to g3 weapon:
Turkey - MPT
Saudi Arabia - Steyer AUG
Iran - KH2002
Yemen - M4
Jordan - M4
Lebaon - M4 and M16

At least Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran which are the biggest countries there used in the past hk33.

izmash wrote:As I said earlier g3 is common weapon in middle east and sorunding countries, many are using mp5 which is H&K production as well, so why wouldn't be another HK product. Other alternatives in my opinion are diffrent versions of ak like ak-101 or ak-103 or other variants, M4/M16, Chinese NORINCO M4 or AK copy and many more common and boring weapons. For example these countries are using in alternative to g3 weapon:
Turkey - MPT
Saudi Arabia - Steyer AUG
Iran - KH2002
Yemen - M4
Jordan - M4
Lebaon - M4 and M16

At least Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Iran which are the biggest countries there used in the past hk33.

I can recall of of those being talked about and thrown out expect for the MPT. dunno off the top of my head that is.

Rabbit wrote:I can recall of of those being talked about and thrown out expect for the MPT. dunno off the top of my head that is.

I only remember ever discussing turning MEC into yet another AK faction which no one really liked. The HK33 seems to be mostly used by special forces these days, but I guess it was used more in the past and PR equipment pretty much stretches from 90s to until now.
Either way, I dislike the idea of mixing G3 and HK33 into one faction, but the idea of MEC Marines or Air Assault with lighter weapons sounds interesting. Would need some other LMG then as well

I remember the ones listed plus the g36

Mats391 wrote:Would need some other LMG then as well

HK21E please.

I mean I still think saudi arabia should be considered a part of mec because fuck saudi arabia.

Rabbit wrote:I mean I still think saudi arabia should be considered a part of mec because fuck saudi arabia.

So give MEC M1A2s and Apaches?

Outlawz7 wrote:So give MEC M1A2s and Apaches?

They have a lot more than that that would add to mec.

Rabbit wrote:They have a lot more than that that would add to mec.

MEC is more like Iran or Egypt AT BEST.

I've updated weapon model to hk33e which should be proper to middle east countries. Tweak some other things.

https://p3d.in/f2zUW

lao wrote:MEC is more like Iran or Egypt AT BEST.

No, they had more Iran and Pakistan when made. (even though calling Pakistan middle eastern is a hella stretch). Adding counties like Egypt was controversial in the team as they have a considerably more friendly temperate with the west than say Iran.

Hia mate,

Looking like good progress, I see you have some bits left to go, so I wont comment on all, worth taking another quick look at rear sight width, I think yours needs to be a touch wider. Are you planning to bake any normal maps, or model and texture it?

The screw in the rear sight should be central too, its worth putting in more details in this area, as its right in the players face when aiming.

https://wmasg.com/uploads/froala/images ... 8e8323.jpg

Not essential but good practice, for bf2 to avoid the ugly flickering/zfighting. Its to 'weld' these faces to be 'watertight' as when flat planes sit on top of each other we get the black flickering. You also save some UV space. You dont have to have apply this everywhere just when you have essentially two flat faces sitting on top of each other.