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Damage models un-equal on trucks

Posted: 2022-11-21 12:34
by Grump/Gump.45
Seen several examples in general of things for trucks not having same values (like the new Syrian rebel truck flipping easily and blowing up fast before the fix). Some trucks take less bullets to take out is one example, I am sure realism can explain it if you researched the specifications of vehicle model details like engine block armor.

But when it comes to the gas tank. The oldest trucks in Project Reality, like the MEC transport trucks have gas tanks that take like 2 mags to destroy(behind and below drivers door).

But the newer trucks gas tanks have seemingly no hitbox or take a lot more hits. I feel it may have been over looked.

Re: Damage models un-equal on trucks

Posted: 2022-11-21 17:06
by SemlerPDX
Research into realism has revealed that shooting gas tanks on vehicles does not cause explosions and is even difficult to cause a fire. Further research seems to indicate that all engine blocks are made out of very strong metal that will not crack unless hit by a very large, high powered round - more likely to damage many other components, including electrical or hydraulic systems.

:crazy:

IRL, do you know what would happen if you shot a red barrel filled with rocket fuel? Nothing... the fuel would escape out of the hole. That is all.

Re: Damage models un-equal on trucks

Posted: 2022-11-21 18:17
by Grump/Gump.45
SemlerPDX wrote:Research into realism has revealed that shooting gas tanks on vehicles does not cause explosions and is even difficult to cause a fire. Further research seems to indicate that all engine blocks are made out of very strong metal that will not crack unless hit by a very large, high powered round - more likely to damage many other components, including electrical or hydraulic systems.

:crazy:

IRL, do you know what would happen if you shot a red barrel filled with rocket fuel? Nothing... the fuel would escape out of the hole. That is all.
I see... It appears to need primary explosion to ignite or a lot of sparks to set off exposed fuel which most likely will ignite and not explode. That is pretty much what already happens right before truck explodes in game, just a fire in the engine block.

Same deal for if I put a hand grenade under the MEC transport gas tank vs the Russian new trucks. I want at least ignition. "DESTROY ALL enemy vehicles by any means for tickets to win".

I feel like nobody has tried muzzle flash blast IRL right up against it, because it goes against general common sense, because it is a small explosion that fires a bullet. Possible to act as blasting cap.

Still stands, there is damage on the gas tank and it is not evenly applied to transport trucks and logistics trucks across all the factions. Try driving with hole in fuel tank, not very far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIo_0qBR8nU

Re: Damage models un-equal on trucks

Posted: 2022-11-22 17:23
by SemlerPDX
Grump/Gump.45 wrote:...
I feel like nobody has tried muzzle flash blast IRL right up against it, because it goes against general common sense, because it is a small explosion that fires a bullet. Possible to act as blasting cap.
Most likely would not do anything, a muzzle flash blast IRL right up against liquid fuel. If it ignited, the ensuing gas expansion would blow it out to a degree that very, very specific circumstances would be required for a muzzle flash to ignite stationary liquid fuel. Regardless of anything, the liquid fuel would burn, not explode. Vehicles do not explode. Liquid petrol is an extremely safe manner of transporting energy. Plenty of specific circumstances would be required for a car fire to result in an explosion, car fires happen all the time and burn to the ground, full gas tank of fuel and all...

If you throw a light match into a bucket of gas filled to the brim, the match will likely go out in the gas and ignite nothing. If you have a bucket of gas with just a little bit of gas in it, the match would have a better chance of igniting something before it is doused out in the liquid, as there would be more of a container holding gaseous fuel which could ignite.

There is a lot more to stoichiometry than meets the eye, without gear, gases do not quickly mix evenly with surrounding gases, and given a lack of oxygen at a specific ratio, some flammable gases won't even burn.

Re: Damage models un-equal on trucks

Posted: 2022-11-23 10:10
by okioen
Nice information.