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Parachutes

Posted: 2007-02-24 01:28
by Fenix16
If at all possible, chute should either be unable to open after a certain altitude (I havent tested that so sorry if it already does), or be forced open upon exit of jet/chopper. Personally I think that using the parachute is an extreamly fun experiance, and I would like to see more pilots opening them at 300 feet when their jet explodes, rather than all of them being expertly trained at HALO jumps.

Posted: 2007-02-24 01:36
by Smash-Crunch
I think you're confused.

Chute already can't open at a certain altitude, 1 metre.

Why would we open at 300 feet when we can open at 50, or even 10?
Those 300 feet are a long way to go if the enemy spots you as you float to the ground.

There are a lot of aspects to parachuting, some like the rush of falling towards the ground at high speeds, while some like to float through the air, and enjoy the view. Why should the people that like the rush of falling be forced to float to the ground?

Posted: 2007-02-24 03:09
by Mongolian_dude
Smash-Crunch wrote:Why should the people that like the rush of falling be forced to float to the ground?
So this mod doesnt contradict it's essence, that being close reference to REALISM

...mongol...

Posted: 2007-02-24 04:26
by Fenix16
Smash-Crunch wrote:I think you're confused.

Chute already can't open at a certain altitude, 1 metre.

Why would we open at 300 feet when we can open at 50, or even 10?
Those 300 feet are a long way to go if the enemy spots you as you float to the ground.

There are a lot of aspects to parachuting, some like the rush of falling towards the ground at high speeds, while some like to float through the air, and enjoy the view. Why should the people that like the rush of falling be forced to float to the ground?

Considering that this is a realism mod, you shouldnt be able to open ur chute 5 feet above the ground, and live to tell the tale. Most modern fighter jets ejection systems are designed to deploy the pilots parachute around 4 seconds after he/she has pulled the ejection chord. I think PR should reflect that.

Posted: 2007-02-24 04:48
by Smash-Crunch
Most Modern Jet Fighters LAUNCH the pilot away from the jet so the chute doesn't get tangled.

Shouldn't live to tell a tale of falling 5 feet?

It's 5 feet. Think about it.

Mongol, I was talking about his idea of forcing pilot's chutes open upon exit of an air vehicle.

The OP is badly phrased. There already is an altitude where the chute won't open, what you want is a delay between pressing the parachute button, and the parachute opening, or a less rapid decrease in speed once the parachute is open.

Posted: 2007-02-24 04:52
by Fenix16
Smash-Crunch wrote:Most Modern Jet Fighters LAUNCH the pilot away from the jet so the chute doesn't get tangled.

Shouldn't live to tell a tale of falling 5 feet?

It's 5 feet. Think about it.

Mongol, I was talking about his idea of forcing pilot's chutes open upon exit of an air vehicle.

The OP is badly phrased. There already is an altitude where the chute won't open, what you want is a delay between pressing the parachute button, and the parachute opening, or a less rapid decrease in speed once the parachute is open.

?? What are you on. I didnt say falling five feet, I said opening the chute 5 ft above the ground. What I want is a delay upon exiting an aircraft, to the chute opening automatically regardless of what the user does. And nowhere did I say that they dont launch the pilot away from the aircraft, I said that the entire process (from pulling the chord to the pilot being outside of the craft with their chute open) takes 4 seconds. I think you have some serious comprehension issues.

Posted: 2007-02-24 06:02
by Smash-Crunch
Shut the f*** up.

Automatic opening of the parachute would be disorienting. I like to face towards my intended target before opening my parachute, and having it open automatically means I would have to waste a lot of air-time figuring out where I'm facing, and turning in my intended direction.

Reading Comprehension? You said opening a parachute from 5 feet, you didn't say falling 500 feet, and then opening your chute at 5 feet.

What I meant by the jet launching the pilot is, when you exit an airplane in this game, you aren't very far from the airplane, and opening your parachute upon exit can lead to you colliding with your own airplane.

@Raniak below me
Fenix16 wrote:?? What are you on. I think you have some serious comprehension issues.

Posted: 2007-02-24 06:29
by Raniak
Smash-Crunch wrote:Shut the f*** up.
Edit: Calm down, even if he insulted you, you don't have to be rude :p

Posted: 2007-02-24 07:08
by lonelyjew
Of all the forums this one is not the one for petty little squables. Frankly, I think there should be a delay or something so, as Fenix16 so aptly put, it doesn't seem like every pilot is master of HALO(LALO in this case?) style low altitude parachute opening. Of course, the distance shouldn't be a realistic height as jets don't normally fly about .5km but still something.

100m sounds like a good distance to me because, generally speaking, jets fly higher than this and choppers fly lower. Other than Ka-50's and it's variants I've not heard of any choppers where pilots can bail.

Posted: 2007-02-24 10:13
by Fenix16
Smash-Crunch wrote:Shut the f*** up.

Automatic opening of the parachute would be disorienting. I like to face towards my intended target before opening my parachute, and having it open automatically means I would have to waste a lot of air-time figuring out where I'm facing, and turning in my intended direction.
Considering that this is a realism mod, I dont see how that makes any sense. Have you ever sky dived before? If you have, imagine doing that while strapped to a chair. There is no way to orient yourself in any particular direction untill the chute opens, and even then it depends on what type of chute your using (ram-air:what bf2 has, or Ribbon & String: Used for ejections at very high speeds)

As for your other comments: You implying that the user of the chute is jumping off of a 5 ft platform and using his chute based of of what I said:
Fenix16 wrote:
Considering that this is a realism mod, you shouldnt be able to open ur chute 5 feet above the ground, and live to tell the tale.
Shows a certain level of smartassness that makes me lose all respect for almost anything that you have to say. On top of that, your inappropriate and heated response,
Smash-Crunch wrote:Shut the f*** up.
to my reply about your "5 ft" comment, which you clearly said with the intention of seeming "cleaver", further lost you the respect of other people on this forum. So please, before you show how much of a smart aleck you are again, consider the repercussions that may follow, and try to keep your temper under control.

Posted: 2007-02-24 21:38
by Smash-Crunch
I have sky dived before. It's very easy to orient yourself before your parachute opens. In a chair it is probably harder, but we aren't strapped to a chair when we exit a plane in this game.

The OP says you want us to be unable to open the parachute under a certain altitude. Based on this, I assumed you were talking about jumping 5 feet, and opening your parachute during that fall.

My angry response was towards you questioning my ability to comprehend written word.

Let other people decide if they want to respect me or not. I did consider the repercussions, thats why I censored my response. Do not tell me to keep my temper under control, I can do anything with my temper that I want. If a moderator doesn't like it, fine, but it isn't your place to threaten me with 'repercussions'.

Posted: 2007-02-24 22:01
by Hitperson
to represent ejecting the most realistically the chute should open upon emediate exit from the aircraft and never for a chopper pilot as they have alreday been chopped to bits after being silly enough to eject from a chopper.

Posted: 2007-02-24 22:55
by Smash-Crunch
Doesn't the chute open automatically if an altimeter attached to the pilot reads below a certain point, but above that point, they have to pull the chute themselves?

I mean, at a certain altitude, the parachute would need to open or the pilot would hit the ground too fast. But, if when ejecting from the plane, the pilot is put into a rapid spin, it would make more sense for them to decide when the safest time to open the chute is, like when they stop spinning at such a rapid rate. If they don't open the chute before a certain altitude, it opens automatically no matter the position they are in.

Posted: 2007-02-24 23:03
by Hitperson
nope chutes automatically open after a couple of seconds not from a barrometer.