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Im wondering if it would be possible to rename the Medic on the Marine "side" to be called a Corpsman instead... Medics are Army guys and Corpsmen are Navy guys serving with Marines...

Also it would be cool if you renamed or replaced the M24 with the M40 since the Marines use the M40 and the Army uses the M24...

And maybe even rename the M16A2 to the M16A4... But Im not sure if the Marines replaced the A2s fully...

The M16A4 is used mostly during special missions in the Marines, such as Recon.

from what iv seen and read Recon use M4 and the A4 is more or less standard issue

joemoemino wrote:Im wondering if it would be possible to rename the Medic on the Marine "side" to be called a Corpsman instead... Medics are Army guys and Corpsmen are Navy guys serving with Marines...

Also it would be cool if you renamed or replaced the M24 with the M40 since the Marines use the M40 and the Army uses the M24...

And maybe even rename the M16A2 to the M16A4... But Im not sure if the Marines replaced the A2s fully...

You won't see any new weapons until the full release, but we are aware of the distinction of terminology and weapons / equipment in the Marines.

[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker]

joemoemino wrote:Im wondering if it would be possible to rename the Medic on the Marine "side" to be called a Corpsman instead... Medics are Army guys and Corpsmen are Navy guys serving with Marines...

Also it would be cool if you renamed or replaced the M24 with the M40 since the Marines use the M40 and the Army uses the M24...

And maybe even rename the M16A2 to the M16A4... But Im not sure if the Marines replaced the A2s fully...

You won't see any new weapons until the full release, but we are aware of the distinction of terminology and weapons / equipment in the Marines.

Very aware

We are aware of the demands for a proper Marine class naming convention. However, until we find out the proper naming convention for the other 2 militaries, there's not much point. We are looking into it.

Ahhh excellant...

solodude23 wrote:
Not to mention there is no such thing as an "Assault" class in the Marines. Maybe....Riflemen? ....Snipers are called STA Snipers, Engineers would be Combat Engineers.

Actually there was an Assault class... it was actually, "Assaultman"... the Line Infantry's response to Anti-Armor and breaching capabilities (ie. SMAW). As per About.com (which gives a GREAT explanation... though the Dragon has been discontinued):

"The assaultman is responsible for the tactical employment of the shoulder-launched multipurpose assault weapon (SMAW), and the Dragon medium assault antitank weapon. Assaultmen provide antibunker and antiarmor fire in support of the rifle squads/platoons/companies and the infantry battalion, and are located in the weapons platoons and weapons companies of the infantry battalion. Noncommissioned officers are assigned as gunners and team, squad, and section leaders."

Snipers are called Scout Snipers... but were from STA Platoons (usually found in a Weapons Company). They used the M-40/M-41 as well as M-24 (though not as often).

As for the A4 debate... the Marine Corps made a switch to that weapon for most units around 2003/2004. The A2 is still being used quite a bit, but the A4 is utilized now by some Line companies, and Force Reconnaissance units. The M-4 is also used by Force Recon... the only downside (or upside... depending on the operation) to the weapon is a smaller barrel length.

solodude23 wrote:Eh, I was kinda refering to the BF2 version, saying its kind of a made up class for what it includes.

Anyway I need some help here from someone.....in order for realistic class names for U.S. which I easily know from the help of Young. If there was some sort of organised alliance formed in the Middle East (MEC) then what would they most likley use for names of certain jobs/positions in their Army? WOuld it be totally new, or would it most likley take up from one of the more depeloped countries from around the Middle Eastern area?

I have no idea about China either. Would it just be simple Riflemen, Medic, etc?


Really need some help.....Eddie can you be of service here?

Info like that is a bit harder to find. Translations for generic descriptors of Rifleman, Machinegunner, Sniper, etc. might be able to be found in a specialized military dictionary for the languages. The Army Area Handbook series has a small, military glossary to the appropriate language in some of their books, but not any of the ones I'm looking for. I may just have to break down and buy one or subscribe to a translation site.

As for MEC, there are a couple of Arabic terms for special operations forces used generically (but may also refer to specific units) such as Al Saiqa, which is translated as "storm" or "thuderbolt," that refers to commando soldiers/units. Commando in this case referring to rapidly deployable direct-action assault units; a shock or raiding force. There is also Al-Quwaat Al-Khaasat which is used to refer to special forces type soldiers/units.

For MEC, I'm thinking we could do a "bastardization" of a couple of Middle Eastern countries for the unit names. In the BF2 story, the MEC is an amalgam of different countries anyway, so why not borrow the names from a few real-life units operating today.

You might do something similar to our mod... if you're picking a specific country or two... then you could do things like (Iraq being our example):

Fedayeen Fighter (Similar to USMC Rifleman)
Civilian Assaultman (Armed with an RPG... similar to USMC AT)

etc etc.

Most middle eastern countries are not as organized as we are in terms of having set established MOS's (Military Occupational Specialties). Iraq, and Afghanistan are two of the big ones that have the most random equipped soldiers.

But, keeping it basic would be safe.