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While I agree the external cameras are far from realistic, neither is limiting a pilot to a narrow view in front of him.

without being able to look around while manuvering, dogfights are hopeless. the CTRL mouselook is worthless in air to air combat since you lose your ability to manuver while looking around.

im really starting to wish BF2 shipped with support for a hat pov or trackIR.

I definitely agree about the lack of situational awareness. Things get even worse with the lack of radar. I also find it somewhat ridiculous BF2 didn't ship with hat switch support out the box.

Ditto. That is something they need to patch in FAST! Well, by fast I mean, by the end of the year, as we all know how 'fast' DICE's patches are. And the fact it'll take them 2 tries, as it will CTD in the first release.

TrackIR support would most definitely get my vote.

Castle_Bravo wrote:While I agree the external cameras are far from realistic, neither is limiting a pilot to a narrow view in front of him.

without being able to look around while manuvering, dogfights are hopeless. the CTRL mouselook is worthless in air to air combat since you lose your ability to manuver while looking around.

im really starting to wish BF2 shipped with support for a hat pov or trackIR.

would it possible to have its controls like Jeeps do? where you can only move with keyboard but an look around with mouse.

Is there no way to implement that into the aircraft aswell?

As it should be an option. If you dont use mouse to fly, and use keyboard only or even a joystick. and have a mouse as a look function

No good. Most good pilots use joystick. TrackIR would be the fix.

TerribleOne wrote:No good. Most good pilots use joystick. TrackIR would be the fix.

like i said, it may be an option. Plus you dont need 2 hands to use a joystick.. Some hardcore gamers, im sure they use pedals + joystick to fly. Then it doesnt take 2 hand to fly with it.

Even if they just use a joystick they can still move the mouse around with their free hand... cause Even using the joystick will require some buttons for rudders, which you can set to mouse1 and mouse2 for left and right rudder. and still have the mouse for free look.

Of course, it will take time to get use to it. For a righty, it would be, getting use to using a mouse with ur left hand or using the joystick with your left hand. vice versa for lefties.

Either way, it can be good for you. You work on your hand coordination as well as your off-hand. Soon enough you'll be ambidextrous.

Lol, i do not have the coordination to use the joystick with my right hand and my mouse with my left hand...

plus the throttle and half the buttons (after burner, alt voip button, flares) are on my joystick and need the other hand to be use.

im using that...
yeah... mouse look will kill you unless youre just doing an easy going recon where theres not a high chance youll be shot at by missiles

Easy recon... the maps in bf2 allow you to fly straight (level) for about 7 15 seconds before you have to turn 180... not enough time to let go of controls... muchless have a dogfight with any semblance of the real thing.

well you wouldnt be going full throttle when doing recon...

IF you want to play a game where you need to full aerial awareness, and you love flight-sims then go play Lockon: Modern Air Combat, that game is awesome. My personal favorite game, well its the most graphic intense and realistic combat flightsim there is.

Fly an F-15C and dogfights MiG-29C, soo much fun.. especially those warning tones you get...all those beeps, and pips..."drools"

this lack of being able to look around can be fixed without controls though, just use teamwork for now where its possible. on gulf of oman about a week ago someone (i forget who)and I were using the US jets and were dogfighting with an enemy in one of the MEC jets, which is more manouverable. through talking to eachother i dont think either of us went down to enemy fire (though i think my fighter met the ground at high speed a few times).

the problem can be fixed by restoring external view in aircraft so i can use front cam to check my six and flyby to track a target in a dogfight.

good luck getting that back, IRL you dont have the visibility afforded to you by those external views.

Agent556 wrote:well you wouldnt be going full throttle when doing recon...

Sorry but youd find recon planes move at the quickest speeds and highest altitude to avoid detection. you do not fly over somwhere on a slow speed because that could comprimise you safe journey home .

TerribleOne wrote:Sorry but youd find recon planes move at the quickest speeds and highest altitude to avoid detection.

Err... High-speed high-altitude planes are the easiest targets for radars to spot. Recon planes move at the quickest speeds and highest altitude to avoid interception, not detection.

There still recon planes? Though UAV and Satellites did all those... helleva cheaper and safer too.

Yeah I think the F/A-18 can be equipped with a recce kit. F-14's used TARPS to fly recce missions. The USAF still has U-2's in service. UAV's have a better chance at killing manned recon flights than satellites. Since some can be affected by cloud cover, they're vulnerable and have predictable orbits. There's the rumored stealthy satellites, but who knows.