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[Weapon] Another USP [WIP]
Posted: 2007-04-04 21:57
by _Henke_
I saw that someone is already working on an USP tactical. But anyway, here´s what I´ve managed to do. What do you think?
And be nice... This is the first thing I´ve ever done in any 3d program.
Just a quick question: How do I get the symmetry map to stay so I can edit things only on the other side of the gun?
And that black thing on the side. No mattter what colour I choose It´s always black.

Posted: 2007-04-04 22:14
by WNxLT7
Looks beautiful! But I have no clue how to do any 3-D modeling so cant help you with the question.
BTW what program do you use?
Posted: 2007-04-04 22:19
by Jarek Mace
The black thing looks like a flipped normal. (you will need a max user, assuming this is max. to show you how to flip it back, I use maya). Normals are responsible for displaying the face direction, especially important on games modelling as the mesh is single sided. (only one side of the poly is drawn by game engine) you can use a technique called 'averaging normals' to make a line of polys look smoother (higher res), instead of orienting the face @90deg it will sample an average face orientation.
The polys on the side of the handle, you can delete the majority of edges saving around 36 polys. (again a max user will have to tell you how)
Modelling both sides at the same time requires a duplicate (instance) with a negative transform. Again I have no idea how unless it's in maya. For maya if you no longer wish to model symetrically you delete the history on the duplicate, again in max I have no idea, not very helpful am i?
For a first it's well done mate.
Posted: 2007-04-05 01:23
by D_LaMz
very nice!
Posted: 2007-04-05 09:53
by KP
This is your first time? Very nice! Lots better than what I did my first time.
A few minor suggestions: Remove the edges along the side of the trigger guard and pistol grip. It'll save you quite a few polygons. Also, the rail isn't complete yet. See how it only goes outwards at the top and not at the bottom?
As for that black thing, I'm not sure.
@ WNxLT7: It's 3DS Max.
Posted: 2007-04-05 12:35
by _Henke_
Yes I´m using 3Ds max
Here´s a small update with the bottom of the mag. still needs some adjustments
And I´m saving the polys on the handle so I can make it smoother if I want.
Also I´m trying to find good pics from different angles of the red and the green area. If you happen to have any it would help alot.
KP: I don´t really understand what you mean with the rail, do you mean the thing that should be in the yellow area?
Jarek Mace: Thanks for the tips.. I´m gonna see if works in 3ds max,, well try to atleast
Posted: 2007-04-05 12:53
by KP
Looks good. Just remember that most of the pistol grip will be hidden by the player's hand, so it doesn't really have to be so smooth. Anyway, you could still remove some edges on the side of the trigger guard.
And the rail is the yellow area, yeah. It's for mounting flashlights, laser sights, etc.
For reference images, try this site:
http://www.imagestation.com/members/DeicideNBF
Posted: 2007-04-05 18:27
by Jarek Mace
Oh that's maya right?
Select the black faces > edit polygons > normals > reverse normals.
To delete history, edit > delete all by type > history.
Forget max if your using Maya either program will do you.
Posted: 2007-04-05 20:15
by D_LaMz
_Henke_ wrote:
Also I´m trying to find good pics from different angles of the red and the green area. If you happen to have any it would help alot.
Those are adjustable sight, but I would rather put Novak sights since they are easier to do and look better.
more here
http://www.novaksights.com/index.htm
Also, about 3Ds Max where can you get it? Is it free?
Posted: 2007-04-05 20:42
by KP
D_LaMz wrote:
Also, about 3Ds Max where can you get it? Is it free?
Gmax is a free version of 3Ds max, with less features (such as rendering and exporting). You can download it from here:
http://www.turbosquid.com/gmax
Posted: 2007-04-06 11:24
by _Henke_
D_LaMz: Thanks alot for that first image of the sight, Its just what i´ve been looking for. And I think I´ll skip the novak sights cause I want the "tactical look"
Edit: Here it is! I´m almost done modelling. Now I just need to learn how to skin...
Do you know any useful guides?

Posted: 2007-04-06 19:41
by requiem
A lot of those polies in the middle of the grip are unnecessary, you also have T-junctions, otherwise it's looking good.
Posted: 2007-04-06 19:53
by D_LaMz
dayum, that is nice!
Posted: 2007-04-06 21:28
by _Henke_
Yeah, im gonna clean up those polys later. But "T-junctions" what is that?
Posted: 2007-04-07 05:30
by 00SoldierofFortune00
Make sure it is in all black too. Silver would reflect in combat and is more noticable.
Posted: 2007-04-07 12:57
by Fullforce
Make a USPc and I will love you for ever

Posted: 2007-04-09 10:47
by Jarek Mace
T junction is a split edge ending in a T shape when you could have placed the end vertex onto another vertex, efficient modelling aka good topology.
see pic
Next stage is to lay out the uv's for texturing. google uv mapping.