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I beg of you....improve the sights of this weapon. They really aren't a fair match for the other guns. They are to fat and don't give good picture on Target. Just about every other weapon beats it out for sight Picture. I'm not saying that its a useless weapon bla bla bla bla QQ wha wha.

But I feel it could stand much improvement. I'm asking for an optical sight. But if there is anyway you can maybe "improve" the sight picture for longer range shooting. I would start playing USMC again... but thats my personal preference


Any other comments?

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if you use the "Search" button you'll find plenty of posts on this topic. It has been mentioned that the current M16A2 will be replaced by a M16A4. The USMC in reality uses the M16A4 and not the M16A2 (used by the US Army), so it is planned to be changed in future release. Also the rifleman kits M16A4 will be equipped with an ACOG type sight.

Cheeseman, the US army uses the M4. The USMC uses a combination of M16A4's and A2's but the A2's are being phased out by the newer version.

'[R-DEV wrote:Katarn']Cheeseman, the US army uses the M4. The USMC uses a combination of M16A4's and A2's but the A2's are being phased out by the newer version.

Will at present time yes but the M16A2 was issued to the US Army and now they're getting replaced by the M4 carbines. And keep in mind the M16A2 is not fully replaced, it’s still in service, but its slowly getting replaced. In fact the United States Military has ordered a few thousand M4s from Colt, to fully replace all M16A2’s. Also some Army Units actually use M16A4 as will.

The USMC uses a combination of M16A4's and A2's

The USMC at present time use combination of M16A4's and M4's. The reason some USMC units even have A2's is because the Marines were the first to be issued the M16A2's (now they're mostly used for practice/training).

Basically any US army soldier out in the field and not sitting around a base uses the M4 and...yeah...oooooollld topic but don't worry mate, if the sights aren't improved drastically when the M16A4 comes out you won't be alone in complaining. On the contrary, this is a FREE mod so complaining usually results in flame threads

JKRMAUI wrote:But if there is anyway you can maybe "improve" the sight picture for longer range shooting. I would start playing USMC again... but thats my personal preference

How do you avoid playing USMC, teamswitching? Naughty.
Have to agree thoo, i like the sights of the m16 the least of the guns too.
But well thats how it is.

Team Switching? Rarely, I just try to avoid using the M16. I either play on

servers that don't switch every round or sell my soul and use the M4. My only

beef with the M16a"What ever" is that I think the Sights are to "fat" they don't

give a nice sight Picture on targets at any range beyond...oh...hmmm...40 feet?

If the M16a4 get Optical sights I think that it would balance longer Ranged

infantry shoot outs. The main reason I made this post was after comparing the

Chinese Sniper Rifle "cough" I mean Basic Riflemen Kit. To the Weapons being

used by the USMC. Even the Iron Sights blow the M16s Sight out of the water.

As I said. The M16 isn't "FUBAR" "worthless" or "Broken" Its just that this Gun

isn't bringing the pain at extended range.

Its very annoying to me I'm always playing Riflemen. Or a class that isn't Spec-ops. So yeah. I am very much the Point walking Tigger-puller for most squads I am in.

I have much Faith in your Team. I'm sure your going to BLOW MY MIND when the next release comes out. I just had to get the rant out.....been worked into this state all night.

I say, in the future release all USMC kits with M16A4's should have a optical sights installed (just like in real life). To balance the superiority of the M16A4 with optical sight, the insurgent AK's (or any 7.62x##mm) should be increased in power. For example; if it takes 3 shots (not in vulnerable areas) to kill someone with the 7.62mm rounds, then that means each shot is 33.3/100 HP, so the ratio can be changed to perhaps 40/100 HP. Its just an idea, but I guessing many will think its a bad one .

Cheeseman wrote:I say, in the future release all USMC kits with M16A4's should have a optical sights installed (just like in real life). To balance the superiority of the M16A4 with optical sight, the insurgent AK's (or any 7.62x##mm) should be increased in power. For example; if it takes 3 shots (not in vulnerable areas) to kill someone with the 7.62mm rounds, then that means each shot is 33.3/100 HP, so the ratio can be changed to perhaps 40/100 HP. Its just an idea, but I guessing many will think its a bad one .

Because of course the fact that a US rifleman carries 90 rounds more than his MEC counterpart, and substantially more than any insurgent dosent go far enough, eh?

Cheeseman wrote:I say, in the future release all USMC kits with M16A4's should have a optical sights installed (just like in real life). To balance the superiority of the M16A4 with optical sight, the insurgent AK's (or any 7.62x##mm) should be increased in power. For example; if it takes 3 shots (not in vulnerable areas) to kill someone with the 7.62mm rounds, then that means each shot is 33.3/100 HP, so the ratio can be changed to perhaps 40/100 HP. Its just an idea, but I guessing many will think its a bad one .

You are incorrect. It takes 2x 7.62 rounds to down a target with body armor. 1 round to take one down without body armor (i.e specops). This WAS increased in 0.5 drastically.

JKRMAUI wrote:Team Switching? Rarely, I just try to avoid using the M16.
beef with the M16a"What ever" is that I think the Sights are to "fat" they don't
give a nice sight Picture on targets at any range beyond...oh...hmmm...40 feet?

Sorry man i was just joking the way you wrote it and all.
I agree with you
100 % if you come up to a G3 you best hide with the m16.
Same with the other iron sight guns not to speak of the ones with scope.
G3 doesn t even need a scope, its awesome as it is.

I don't have a problem with the sights so much on the M16 as I do the poor stopping power of it. It seems pretty accurate in single-fire mode from range, but if they start firing back, it'll only take 1 round from the G3 to kill you. The AK isn't as bad but if the enemy starts firing back at me, I lose a lot of battles with the M16.

I've started playing as far back as possible from the battle as I can, using the 203 whenever possible and just trying to play at range. This works well for me and my squad, but you can't take flags from 100+ yards out. I dunno, I like the M16 but it's poor stopping power is a challenge for me.

Iron sights are a fact of life. 5.56mm doesn't have the same stopping power as the 7.62mmx## rounds, thats a fact of life. I don't like the idea of every rifle having optical sights. I like the M16 sights, sure they could be slightly narrowed but for the most part I can take down people at range without problem.

Im not the best PR player by far but I find most of the time its that players rush the shot or use burst fire at range. I will gladly let the enemy fire first while I take an extra second to get a bead on him. I don't head shot all the time but my first shot goes to the chest and then I walk the sights up a bit for the next one or two shots if possible. CQC with the M16 is rough going up against the AK's and G3's because of their power not the sights. If we have ACOG's they will suck for CQC, you will be wishing for those iron sights (or an Aimpoint )


Cheers,

One suggestion for the sights would be to have a more transparent look on the outer "sight ring", but keep the middle site post like it is.

It just seems that the outer circle of the sight remains too much in focus and blocks some of the sight picture.

you just need to narrow the sight a bit and then use the real M16 aiming system, where you got a flip sight for different engagement distances. you could maybe implement this as another firemode or as another zoom, i would prefer it to be a third firemode where it's singlefire but zoomed.

In PR:
G3>M16>QBZ-95>L85

M16 is deadly in CQB and is quite accurate. G3 wins for the super damage though.

LoL, its quite different in the peoples view, for me it goes
QBZ-95>G3>L85a>M-16 , but manly because i love the sights, espcially as SL

I rarely do well with M16 in QCB...I'll squeeze the trigger 3-4 times on burst before they go down. That's 12 rounds.

With the G3 or L85, a brief burst of full auto does the job much faster.

What? I love the M16 sights! Single shot with M16 is beautiful.