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Obviously this isn't addressed to everyone, but I think a large number of people don't understand what suppressive fire is.

Here's a scenario from this weekend:

5 of us (UK) are huddled into a building on the first floor. A rocket slams into the side of it, taking out a wall. 2 die and the medic is reviving people...then healing others, there's smoke everywhere, and a huge f'ing hole from where the rocket hit.

Action:
Spray and HOSE the area that rocket came from through the smoke. I switched to full-auto and emptied out clip after clip into this mess, killing 4 guys that kept trying to run through the smokey hole to kill us. What's everyone inside doing? Laying there waiting for someone to come in and start shooting.

Fellas, it's OK to lay down fire and shoot at things even if you can't see the enemy. Pretend your Rambo, sometimes that's what I do. You don't have to be accurate, just put some fucking rounds over their heads so they stop advancing forward. If more people started doing this instead of lying around like an f'ing log waiting for the enemy to shoot them first, squads could be much more powerful.

Watch special forces exercise videos sometime. They lay down IMMENSE cover fire while retreating...and the whole point is to make the enemy belive they're bigger than they really are. 4-5 guys on full auto will stop anyone from coming toward you.

And if you're squad is crossing a road where pot shots came before...go ahead and fire at the windows/rooftop as they're advancing. Don't wait for someone to come to the window and shoot before you do, the point is to keep them huddled down inside while your forces move toward the building to secure it.

The enemy can't shoot you when they're taking cover.

i still think supressive fire dosn't work because people dont vaule there lifes enough and u can put all the fire down u can and some 1 will pop up and 1 shot kill u. thats what i think tho i still do try do it.

gazzthompson wrote:i still think supressive fire dosn't work because people dont vaule there lifes enough and u can put all the fire down u can and some 1 will pop up and 1 shot kill u. thats what i think tho i still do try do it.

exactly. You can fire all you want at a a few windows and then 1 guy pops from one of the windows and shoots you. Suppressive fire isn't that usefull since people are not afraid to get killed. Simple as that.

It's effective in some situations, like for example if you know that there is an enemy behind a tree/whatever and your squad is moving, then shooting to the direction of the tree might keep his head down. But overall it's really not that usefull.

Suppressive fire often does not work. You can keep unloading on the ground next to the corner, but then someone is going to instaprone around the corner and shoot you in the face before you can get an actual aimed shot on him.

dont ruin my sweet thread guys

Supressive fire does work! Think, when bullets are near you, it makes the screen fuzzy, your hearing goes etc, just like when a grenade goes off near you, therefore supressive fire reduces the awareness of the opponent. Anyway, its only design to keep the enemy confused while someone makes the proper calculated kills.

It would be nice if that fuzziness was somehow turned up in intensity. Also if you didn't have to be quite as close to the bullets.

Regardless, suppressive fire works, but there's been many thread (even in the last month) on this subject.

i remember one time when i had suppressive fire put on me i hid behind that tree adn didnt move at all..worked damn well then

Suppressive fire works well. I've had many occasions (most notable coming to mind on Airport) where working with a single squad have been able to keep at bay several attacking squads. It maybe isn't the as reliable a tactic as it is in real life, but it sure works to gain a few precious seconds for your own team to get into better positions.

Also, suppression fire is quite an effective tactic if you are using a highly accurate weapon - I noticed that the other team was quite unwilling to run in areas where I'd massacred them.

it does work. all you need is one stray bullet to hit you and you are fuzzy and cant see properly. this means they cant shoot back, in most csses they enemy pulls back to a safe position and trys to flank you. if you are in an organised squad however, you would probably cover your flanks, and therefore the fanker doesnt manage to kill you.

+ hit box detection. One bullet may hit you, but you can still run.

Plus those instant crouch > Stand headshots.

I was on Gulf once, I had the SVD, and was shooting guys running up the beach. This support guy came running up (on the beach), instaproned and shot me in the head with the first bullet.

This was the only time something died inside me.

There's a time a place for everything. I've seen suppressive fire work, but then at other times, all it do is give away your exact position because of tracer fire then you get single shotted in the head.

One time it did work really well was actually against me. I was huddled behind a small building for ages while bullets whizzed by on each side of the building.

Err..so what I'm trying to say is, use suppressive fire when appropriate.

usually just gives my position away faster. and i want them to come out...so i can shoot them

gazzthompson wrote:i still think supressive fire dosn't work because people dont vaule there lifes enough and u can put all the fire down u can and some 1 will pop up and 1 shot kill u. thats what i think tho i still do try do it.

Actually, that is part of the reason why it works. There are only two things that will happen when there is suppressing fire.

1. You fire before the enemy pops his head up and he keeps it down because it comes right next to him.

2. He doesn't think suppressing fire works(like some of you) and sticks up to fire back and while doing so, he is either nicked or killed by your stray bullets(if they are put semi-accurately down range)

Fire superiority is better then nothing at all. I see people saying it doesn't work, but with headshots being so easy in PR if the bullet even comes semi-close, it would be stupid not to use it. And with two people using it, it doubles your chances of killing/suppressing.

The only time suppressing fire doesn't work is when you just randomly shoot somewhere. You need to shoot AT their exact location. The cone/whatever it is in BF2 pretty much gurantees you a hit if he sticks out or that he will at least keep his head down.

And remember, bullets are free. You have nothing to lose by spraying.

agreed with soldier. suppressive fire does work, when for example i'm leading a squad of 6 on Ghost train as PLA, british at south bridge bunker poking heads out and taking shots at us. i had EVERYONE in the squad duck down and lay down ALOT of fire into the bunker. nobody dared stick their heads out and i tossed a nade in from the side. worked very very well for our squad. 8 british dead.

Well, one thing I do love about suppressive fire: unloading on a ridge, and then having a guy run out over it in full standing stance, not even trying to take cover. I had that happen when firing at insurgent locations from the british jeep with the mounted MG. Of course, it turned sour when they started opening up on the jeep crew, causing us to abandon the vehicle and duck behind actual cover

On british maps i play as rifleman for the most part so I'm always finding an excuse too fire

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I always shoot large amounts of ammunition at things that look like people.

vanity wrote:Obviously this isn't addressed to everyone, but I think a large number of people don't understand what suppressive fire is.

Here's a scenario from this weekend:

5 of us (UK) are huddled into a building on the first floor. A rocket slams into the side of it, taking out a wall. 2 die and the medic is reviving people...then healing others, there's smoke everywhere, and a huge f'ing hole from where the rocket hit.

Action:
Spray and HOSE the area that rocket came from through the smoke. I switched to full-auto and emptied out clip after clip into this mess, killing 4 guys that kept trying to run through the smokey hole to kill us. What's everyone inside doing? Laying there waiting for someone to come in and start shooting.

Fellas, it's OK to lay down fire and shoot at things even if you can't see the enemy. Pretend your Rambo, sometimes that's what I do. You don't have to be accurate, just put some fucking rounds over their heads so they stop advancing forward. If more people started doing this instead of lying around like an f'ing log waiting for the enemy to shoot them first, squads could be much more powerful.

Watch special forces exercise videos sometime. They lay down IMMENSE cover fire while retreating...and the whole point is to make the enemy belive they're bigger than they really are. 4-5 guys on full auto will stop anyone from coming toward you.

And if you're squad is crossing a road where pot shots came before...go ahead and fire at the windows/rooftop as they're advancing. Don't wait for someone to come to the window and shoot before you do, the point is to keep them huddled down inside while your forces move toward the building to secure it.

The enemy can't shoot you when they're taking cover.

Suppressive fire is not that useful in PR given that bullets cannot penetrate many materials that they should be able to penetrate. Unless this is fixed, no one is going to be fleeing because fire is coming towards them.