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Umm Idea for a new Faction!

Posted: 2007-05-11 09:13
by JKRMAUI
Before Reading this...take in mind, I just think this would be a cool addition. Don't chew me out! ;-)


Since their are so many civilian contractors in Iraq and other hot spots around the globe why not make them a playable faction for PR! I think it would be kinda neet. They could be a little more *Random* then conventional forces. Since they bound by set military codes. Just an Idea

Ideas for Classes
Commando<--- OR what ever
kit includes
knife
pistol 2+1 *like a .45 'Wink, Wink'*
Carbine 6+1*I was thinking possibly a G36! Please!!! I'm just looking for any excuse to get this gun added to the mod!! ;-) ;-) *
binoculars
Field dressingx1

Combat Operator
Knife
Pistol 4+1
Rifle 8+1*something like a 417 would make sense! 7.62x51mm sexiness*
Smoke grendadex2
Ammo bags x3
Binoculars
Field Dressingx1
LIGHT body armor

Combat Specialist
Knife
Pistol 1+1
Rifle 4+1*Full size G36K or G36E*
Shotgun *semi auto, no slugs* 14+8< sounds about right yea?
Handgrenadex1
Binoculars
Field dressingx2
Heavy body armor

Medical Specialist
Knife
Pistol 2+1
Carbine 4+1 *416 ;) *
Binoculars
Medical Bag
De-fibs 4charges
field dressingx3
light body armor

Driver< can operate vehicle's.
Knife
Pistol 2+1
SMG 6+1, Like an MP5 or something Maybe P90 :p
Wrench
Field dressingsx1
Light Body armor

Pick Up kits

Pilot*since companies like Black Water have their own Little Bird Fleet*
Knife
Pistol 2+1
Smoke Grenadex1
Field Dressingx1

Support Specialist
Knife
Pistol 2+1
LMG 1+2, Maybe an M249 or something of the like.
Binoculars
Heavy armor
Field Dressing x1

Sharpshooter
Knife
Pistol 2+1
Sniper rifle 4+1 *something like a 417 with a more powerful scope*
Binocular
Field Dressing x1

Most of the Main weapons listed would probably be equipped with Optics, since It appears that most contractors have some sort of Optic sight on their weapons. Also since they have NO high help. *like Cobras or A10s*


Vehicles
Black SUV....hehe....that can hold like 6 guys and has some body armor. Possibly coded so that some passengers can shoot back.

Black SUV with different markings. Works like a spawn car. They spawn at main base...they are driven up to the front....same as insurgents some what. Can hold 6 people

Little Bird Transport
Same as military but with a white Stripe running down the side.

Little Bird Transport with M249 mount.
I was watching a video that involved some Black Water Pilots. A few Birds had M249s On door mounts for Close support and suck...Vietnam Style!. Can hold lets say 3 guys +pilot and gunner.

Just felt like tossing this out. I think it would be a cool faction....maybe a LITTLE far fetched but it would give us a chance to Blend Project Reality and "Project REALLY AWESOME SOUNDING AND LOOKING GUNS" and still be in the realm of belief.

....Well....now that I've made some use of being bored......I will take my leave....may the flamers set fire to my hopes and dreams 8-)

PS Some of its just silly. But Seriously. This would make sense, since their are almost 100,000 contractors deployed in Iraq *not all combat* but still....

Posted: 2007-05-11 09:30
by Outlawz7
You mean Mercenaries?

Becuase those guys are a bit too "specialized" and armed to be civi's...

Maybe later on in upcoming versions...
Someone could also do the faction themselves, like KP, who is doing the Taiwan Army... ;)

Posted: 2007-05-11 09:32
by Silvarius2000
I'd love the idea of a Security Contractor faction. IMHO its an equivalent of an Insurgent faction under the US army for purposes of this mod so we can do a reverse of situations. MEC vs BlackWater anyone? Sounds like an objective map to me :)

nice idea

Posted: 2007-05-11 09:51
by JKRMAUI
I don't want this to sound demandy or anything. Just thought It would be awesome to have Contractors in this game. Think of the maps and senarios that would be built around them! Most of their weapons are already in game *Various G36 models are in POE2* Plus I think they would be a fun Faction to play. More advanced then the Insurgents or Militia. But Don't have the Air Power and Armor of the UK/US forces.

I personally think the Devs could have a field day with this type of faction. Very interesting Map scenarios....and give them a chance to go kinda...hog wild on including those New Cool Guns that quite a few people would like to see DONE RIGHT!! and still keep to a solid and Realistic Mod.

I personally would LOVE to see a G36 done PR style....EA doesn't give the thing Justice.... That and other cool toys. Plus I think Insurgent Vs Contractor Maps would be very fun. They would certainly have an exotic feel to them.

And since its PR this would make more sense then some of the other additions. Also, why is their a Mec in PR....I feel it should be More Indonesian Rebels over PLA and Insurgents/ Miltia in the Middle east. But hey! I'm not complaining! They make good enemies!

Always trying to bring ideas for New content to my #1 FPS! :grin:

Posted: 2007-05-11 10:27
by Turk_Komando
TURKISH UNION (TU) it might happen if we dont make it to the EU and here is a map of how it might look like and yeah come on bring it on england and us we taken on 5 countrys before and turkey will do it again

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Posted: 2007-05-11 11:30
by Kruder
Turk_Komando wrote:TURKISH UNION (TU) it might happen if we dont make it to the EU and here is a map of how it might look like and yeah come on bring it on england and us we taken on 5 countrys before and turkey will do it again

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Posted: 2007-05-11 11:36
by .:iGi:.BLACKWIRE
Turk_Komando wrote:TURKISH UNION (TU) it might happen if we dont make it to the EU and here is a map of how it might look like and yeah come on bring it on england and us we taken on 5 countrys before and turkey will do it again

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First of all, it would be GREAT BRITAIN and second of all, why would we want to invade your country?! Get a grip.

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:41
by Brood
This... is actually... a good faction idea...

As for durrrrrrrk_komandooooo
Dear GOD!
Turk_Komando wrote:TURKISH UNION (TU) it might happen if we dont make it to the EU and here is a map of how it might look like and yeah come on bring it on england and us we taken on 5 countrys before and turkey will do it again

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WWI
In the end the allies lost 141,109 trying to take turkey...
Turkey lost 251,309...

Depends on how you define victory, as an Australian I find your comments very insulting and I hope you rot in hell.

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:46
by DirtyHarry88
BLACKWIRE wrote:First of all, it would be GREAT BRITAIN and second of all, why would we want to invade your country?! Get a grip.
For THE EMPIRE of course!!

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:52
by Soulja
Bring it! I'd give you a week vs the US Military, if that.


Anyway, back to the point. I don't really see the point in this faction. Maybe for a later past 1.0 release or something when they can bother with more fantasy stuff.


Also, like that someone else wants a 45 in there, screw the Beretta lol

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:53
by daranz
This could be an interesting faction for extract. Instead of extracting a vip, though, you'd be escorting a convoy of trucks across the map. The idea is that a civilian contractor convoy has its own PMC escorts, and they're the one who fight the insurgents who want to IED the hell out of the trucks.

I don't think US PMCs should engage in combat with China or MEC. That's a bit far-fetched. Security contractors go better with minor skirmishes with insurgents, rather than an all out war with a foreign nation.

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:54
by Brood
daranz wrote:This could be an interesting faction for extract. Instead of extracting a vip, though, you'd be escorting a convoy of trucks across the map. The idea is that a civilian contractor convoy has its own PMC escorts, and they're the one who fight the insurgents who want to IED the hell out of the trucks.

I don't think US PMCs should engage in combat with China or MEC. That's a bit far-fetched. Security contractors go better with minor skirmishes with insurgents, rather than an all out war with a foreign nation.
Give it 20 years before war is privatized >.<

Posted: 2007-05-11 11:57
by Dyer |3-5|
I would love to see this. But from what I've seen, alot of contracters use customized Ak varients so I would kindof like to see some of those instead of having them all have weapons that are better than the standard military.

Also, although civilian contracters are extremely heavily armed, they are NOT mercenaries. There job is not to actively engage the enemy, but to deliver supplies, get people to meetings, ect. ect. However, if/when they encounter resistance, they are authorized to fight back and defend themselves.

If this faction was implemented, it would most likely need an entire new game mode to replicate real contractors. It would most likely have to be vs. insurgent ever time and they would have to be either ambushed or attacked and then defend themselves.

Contractors also use specialized, highly armored custom trucks for high profile missions,and cars made to blend in, but still armored, for low profile ones. Their weapons are usually very small in order to comfortably be able to sit in the front of a car and move them.

Posted: 2007-05-11 14:23
by robbo
Ahaha, Turkey what the hell are they guna do bomb our tourists oh wait they do that now. Great Britain would annihilate you in a war but why would we want that Sh*thole connected to the crappy ME world.

Posted: 2007-05-11 14:36
by ::Major_Baker::
Skin them all in Gucci and sexi clothes since they get paid 100 times more than real soldiers, for the same or less work.

Posted: 2007-05-11 14:44
by bosco_
I love the idea, but I am fully aware that we're not going to see this in PR.

Posted: 2007-05-11 14:50
by 101 bassdrive
I demand the swiss guard being implented defending the vip ( pope) from terrorist IED attacks!!11

you exaggerated patriots amuse me.

Posted: 2007-05-11 15:58
by Ecko
robbo wrote:Ahaha, Turkey what the hell are they guna do bomb our tourists oh wait they do that now. Great Britain would annihilate you in a war but why would we want that Sh*thole connected to the crappy ME world.
QFT, We have no interest in turkey at all, your a non factor country lol.

Posted: 2007-05-11 16:15
by Wasteland
I can't believe nobody's busted out the "this has been suggested several times before...... use the search feature" yet.

Posted: 2007-05-11 16:17
by lonelyjew
The mods are slow today...

First, there is no way in hell you're going to see a whole new faction made just for civilian contractors. They don't have regular equipment, they rarely do anything outside security, and they would never be put in the front lines of an actual war. The only people they would fight would be insurgents and you can bet that nobody will make a whole faction just to fight insurgents. This is all not mentioning that the dev's have said repeatedly that they will not make any other factions and will focus entirely on the British as well as making new things for the already existing factions. If there ever was another addition it would probably be the Israeli Army since they are the most appropriate addition but I wouldn't hold your breath.

Now, onto Turkey. I assumed that it was part of the MEC and probably was one of it's biggest backers. Isn't the MEC supposed to be like a Middle Eastern NATO?

Anyways, this thread needs a lock.