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I like this mod and enjoyed playing it offline to get a feel for the weapons. Very nice job! The SAW is actually something to be feared (well way closer than the standard battlefield).

Mainly what always bothered me was that the "medics" are called "medics". The Marines have Corpsmen or a Corpsman. The BlackHawk should be called a SeaHawk as its what the Navy calls its version of the BlackHawk. Also the Marines don't have a Bradley, or the Linebacker version for that matter. They have multiple types of LAV-25 and a HMMWV mounted Avenger Weapons System: Link 1 and Link 2

Heres a great link to see all the equipment the Marines use: Equipment Fact file

The squad that I'm in for "modern combat games" (23rd MEU, squad website down right now) I have several Marines who would love to help out with any questions you guys have or need and information. In my WWII Online squad (http://10mdiv.wwiionline.org) I also have a few guys who have served so they can help you too. I'm I know a heck of alot from these guys telling me things. Good luck on this mod! I really hop it works out!

I noticed you guys are putting in the LittleBird, thats nice but the Marines don't use it....we'll just say the Air Force is in the Area and helping out because thats one of my favorites.

We are very familiar with the differences in terminology and equipment used by the Marine Corps and the other US services. USMC will not be the only service represented in the game. But thanks for being observant.

BTW, the MH-6/AH-6 is used exclusively by the Army's 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, not USAF. The Air Force would have to be helping out, anyway, if the F-15E is there, since neither the Navy nor the Marines use it.

Alright, good to hear. These mistakes ain't really yours, their the developers DICE mistakes. Theres alot of talent on your mod team and I have a feeling this will mushroom and become more and more popular.

My mistake on the Little Birds, I knew they were exclusive to 160th SOAR I just couldn't remember if they were indeed Army or Air Force.

Thanks for quick reply, looking forward to playing your MOD Online soon.

I think the only time the F-15 in any form is used these days is to escort Air Force One. The Marines fly them seeing as they're the Presidents bodyguards and all.

Also the Marines use the Seahawk true, but the Seahawk is different in more than just name from the Blackhawk. The placement of the wheel gear for one, and the engine exhausts (and the engines themselves). Also to be more accurate the Marines don't even use the Seahawks for the rolls the Blackhawk has in BF2, they use the CH-53E Super Stallion or the CH-46 Seaknight for those tasks.

the f-15 is an Air Force fighter. the marines use harriers and f-18s mainly i believe.

I thought that guarding the president became an airforce job when he's in AF1. and the marines fly the helicopter... but im not too familiar with that side.

Mad Max wrote:I think the only time the F-15 in any form is used these days is to escort Air Force One. The Marines fly them seeing as they're the Presidents bodyguards and all.

No, the Marines do not fly the F-15 in any way, shape or form, and the F-15C interceptor version is still used by the US and several other nation-states to fly combat air patrols.

Mad Max wrote:Also the Marines use the Seahawk true, but the Seahawk is different in more than just name from the Blackhawk. The placement of the wheel gear for one, and the engine exhausts (and the engines themselves). Also to be more accurate the Marines don't even use the Seahawks for the rolls the Blackhawk has in BF2, they use the CH-53E Super Stallion or the CH-46 Seaknight for those tasks.

You are partially correct. The US Marines do sometimes hitch rides in the Seahawks, but they belong only to the US Navy. The only variant of the H-60 used by the USMC is the VH-60N Blackhawk (Marine One) used for presidential and visiting foreign head-of-state transport.

The alleged HH-60H Seahawk in Battlefield 2 is another EA creation. The actual HH-60H cannot mount the external stores support system "stub wings" and only has one door; it also has the standard Seahawk engine and rear landing-gear configuration. The newer MH-60S Knighthawk is essentially a UH-60L fuselage (with standard Blackhawk tail gear configuration) with Seahawk engines, so it is able to mount the ESSS. It will eventually phase out the HH-60H for the CSAR/strike rescue/special warfare support role.

honestly guys, where would we be without our encyclopedia (i probably need a dictionary guy too for that) eddie baker?

Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the current 'black hawk' actually a black hawk painted with a seahawk scheme and markings? seahawk should have tail landing gear coming out of middle of tail, not end.

Not to mention numerous things eddie already pointed out...

as eddie said its a sort of EA hybrid creation.

Figisaacnewton wrote:Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the current 'black hawk' actually a black hawk painted with a seahawk scheme and markings? seahawk should have tail landing gear coming out of middle of tail, not end.

It's EA's own made-up paint scheme for it. It has dark gray-green paint similar to USMC helos and "Marines" markings; Seahawks are painted standard Navy gray, with some odds and ends here and there.

Just for comparison, this is the actual Marine paint scheme for their H-60s



Here is the HH-60H Seahawk



And the C/MH-60S Knighthawk

those would be more ceremonial paint schemes seen on those choppers though wouldnt they? sort of 'dress blues' for the choppers so to speak.



arent the true marine combat helos painted more like this one here? of course you said that's the h-60 paint scheme and this is clearly not an h-60.

BrokenArrow wrote:those would be more ceremonial paint schemes seen on those choppers though wouldnt they? sort of 'dress blues' for the choppers so to speak.

Well, that's the only color in which the Marine VH-60Ns appear. They're only in the USMC's "special air mission" helicopter squadron used for VIP transport.

BrokenArrow wrote:arent the true marine combat helos painted more like this one here? of course you said that's the h-60 paint scheme and this is clearly not an h-60.

Yes, USMC combat helos do normally come in that dark gray-green color. That's also EA's paint scheme for their H-60, is what I said.

ah alright, i wasnt sure if thats what you meant or not, thanks for the clarification.

sorry for losing track of this thread. Great replies and good to know you have guys on the team commited to makeing the DICE creations correct. (Technically none of whats wrong with the game is EAs fault, they only published it, DICE made it.) I hope to enjoy the new release!