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like in CS:Source, how your gun is slung on your back when not being held, i think that would be a cool little addition to the mod.

Not really necessary, and probably hardcoded, but i thought i should mention it.

All new models and animation.
A lot of work.
Does not affect gameplay at all.
BTW: mentioning CS is not a way to gain general acceptance of even good ideas which this one is not.

Possible? Yea...

But as ADA said it would be such a HUGE amount of work it wouldn't be worth it.

ArmedDrunk&Angry wrote:All new models and animation.
A lot of work.
Does not affect gameplay at all.
BTW: mentioning CS is not a way to gain general acceptance of even good ideas which this one is not.

Actually it's a fine idea, just not worth the work. Don't be so Angry.

I kinda like that Idea but with the current engine my guess is they would have to use the ANTI-TANK model for it.

MichSt-Spartan wrote:Actually it's a fine idea, just not worth the work. Don't be so Angry.

Actually it is a pointless idea that would add nothing to the gameplay but would look nicer.
Don't be so ...... [ censored ]

It'd also be fu**ing retarded. Why the hell would you put your weapon 'on your back' in a combat situation? The entire point of a 3-point sling system is to keep your weapon at the low ready without you holding on to it. The only reason for a weapon to be anywhere other than your hands is
A. You are beating the **** out of a insurgent with your gloved hands because you don't like cleaning blood/skin out of the end if your barrel (it sucks)
B. You are jumping over a 5+foot wall
C. You are lifting something really really heavy (human body/spare tire/155 rounds come to mind)

Yeah that's about it. And none of those are simulated in PR so no.

I don't think that would be entirely possible.

You could put a rifle on the soldiers' back, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get it to disappear when the rifle is equipped.

WNxKenwayy wrote:It'd also be fu**ing retarded. Why the hell would you put your weapon 'on your back' in a combat situation? The entire point of a 3-point sling system is to keep your weapon at the low ready without you holding on to it. The only reason for a weapon to be anywhere other than your hands is
A. You are beating the **** out of a insurgent with your gloved hands because you don't like cleaning blood/skin out of the end if your barrel (it sucks)
B. You are jumping over a 5+foot wall
C. You are lifting something really really heavy (human body/spare tire/155 rounds come to mind)

Yeah that's about it. And none of those are simulated in PR so no.

The term "on your back" isn't literal. It means, not in your hands but still visual on your person. Either hanging in front of you by the sling, slung over your shoulder, or slung across your back.

And there are many more reasons why you wouldn't have your rifle in your hands.
Throwing a grenade, looking through binoculars, using your side arm or knife, driving something, manning a turret, etc. All of which ARE simulated in PR.

WNxKenwayy wrote:It'd also be fu**ing retarded. Why the hell would you put your weapon 'on your back' in a combat situation? The entire point of a 3-point sling system is to keep your weapon at the low ready without you holding on to it. The only reason for a weapon to be anywhere other than your hands is
A. You are beating the **** out of a insurgent with your gloved hands because you don't like cleaning blood/skin out of the end if your barrel (it sucks)
B. You are jumping over a 5+foot wall
C. You are lifting something really really heavy (human body/spare tire/155 rounds come to mind)

Yeah that's about it. And none of those are simulated in PR so no.

ermmm..... what about :

A. a mine
B. a SRAW
C. a Eryx
D. a stinger
E. a sa-7
F. your parachute
G.etc.

ZanderArch wrote:The term "on your back" isn't literal. It means, not in your hands but still visual on your person. Either hanging in front of you by the sling, slung over your shoulder, or slung across your back.

And there are many more reasons why you wouldn't have your rifle in your hands.
Throwing a grenade, looking through binoculars, using your side arm or knife, driving something, manning a turret, etc. All of which ARE simulated in PR.

Have you even played PR, at all? Show me a movie in PR where you have your weapon in your hands while throwing a grenade. Also, yes I throw grenades with one arm so I can have my weapon at the ready with the other. In a turret you keep your weapon unslung but close at hand so in the event of a critical stoppage, you can pick it up and continue to put rounds down range. Looking through bino's you still keep a hand on your weapon.

In none of those cases would your rifle be 'on your back'. You're arguments are worthless because either PR already simulates it (no rifle when manning something which is accurate), or because you saw some movie where a guy had his rifle slung ala rambo across his back doing something stupid.

Yeah, Rambo, hides in the mud slide, jumps out and knifes the Spetznaz...

WNxKenwayy wrote:.

QFT!

When Kenwayy gives real world, first hand, "I have actually done this before" etc. answers to questions it is a good idea to just nood your head and say thankyou. No need to bicker over something with a person who is in the know ala real life not just wikipidea

Oh and to the guy who told AD&A not to respond in an angry way, read his name tag again, it's his job to respond like that

AD&A first responce is 'Armed'

77SiCaRiO77 wrote:ermmm..... what about :

A. a mine
B. a SRAW
C. a Eryx
D. a stinger
E. a sa-7
F. your parachute
G.etc.

A. You'd set the weapon down, unless you enjoy being laughed at like an idiot
B/C/D/E. The secondary weapon system is slung across the back until brought into use, when your weapon remains on your sling. If in a non-hostile enviroment (guard tower etc) the weapon would be propped up on something anyways, not slung on your back.
F. Its held in front of you. Well, actually somewhat to the side, but not across the back, unless you can show me your magical counterstrike style Parachute that deploys while a weapon is covering it in use by the military. Did you even think about that?



How about this. Go get a 3 point sling, slap it on a rifle. Then, from the normal low ready position, try to put it comfortably across your back with body armor on. You can't. Why? Because in order for it to sit comfortably, the weapon has to be basically turned upside down, which means taking the sling off, rotating the weapon 180 degree's, putting it back on. This is fine when you are walking around a FOB/secured location, which don't exist in PR.

Either way your weapon disappears which is kinda stupid (No offense to the devs because it's obviously alot of work to do but you know what I mean) Like you said about people throwing grenades with one arm while holding their rifle in the other, people seem to be getting at the fact that your rifle disappears into thin air more then anything else.

Anyway regarding the above I think he was just listing stuff that was carried on your back, if it indeed is, and not stuff that's carried on your back along with a rifle.

People need to bear in mind that not everyone in here is in the military, or knows as larger amount about it as some of the guys here. Just because someone makes a suggestion doesn't mean they have complete conviction in what they are saying more it just seems to make sense with the amount of knowledge they have. There's no need to patronise.

AnRK wrote:*snip*

People need to bear in mind that not everyone in here is in the military, or knows as larger amount about it as some of the guys here. Just because someone makes a suggestion doesn't mean they have complete conviction in what they are saying more it just seems to make sense with the amount of knowledge they have. There's no need to patronise.

But that's the problem, some of them DO think they have complete conviction they are right. I can grab several threads as examples if you'd like, all which end up getting locked as they should, because the argument is pointless.

AnRK wrote: People need to bear in mind that not everyone in here is in the military, or knows as larger amount about it as some of the guys here. Just because someone makes a suggestion doesn't mean they have complete conviction in what they are saying more it just seems to make sense with the amount of knowledge they have. There's no need to patronise.

People also need to bear in mind that when someone with real life combat experience or a very high level of education on a subject give you an answer to stop arguing. It's frustrating to see someone post several respounces that clearly answer the question to only have more "what if's" thrown at them, trying to find a small flaw in their answer.

SOP's say that your rifle should be at arms reach or easily available when its on your back its not really easily available because (this is my own personal experience) to get the rifle to sit on my back with out it falling back down to my side i had to put the muzzle in between my webbing pouches so when you need it again it is a bit difficult to get back round into your hands.