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am i the only one that finds mestia unrealistic?

Posted: 2007-07-20 04:28
by charliegrs
i love PR because the theaters of war are in the near future but very realistic. US against china? pretty realistic we arent exactly best friends. US against a middle eastern coalition? seems realistic to me, i mean the middle eastern nations have joined forces many times in the past to try to destroy israel. But one theater that i really cant get a grip on is mestia. i mean why exactly are the british fighting the chechens? i just dont get it. the chechens have been at war with russia for a long time, i dont see the russians allowing the british into what they consider russian territory. i realize that there isnt a russian side in PR, but this one map just ruins the realism factor for me :-( and on that note, PR could really use a russian team lol im sorry i know its been suggested before.

atleast its not as unthinkable as the US fighting mexico like in Ghost recon 2 {ughh...}

Posted: 2007-07-20 04:34
by Ironcomatose
charliegrs wrote:i love PR because the theaters of war are in the near future but very realistic. US against china? pretty realistic we arent exactly best friends. US against a middle eastern coalition? seems realistic to me, i mean the middle eastern nations have joined forces many times in the past to try to destroy israel. But one theater that i really cant get a grip on is mestia. i mean why exactly are the british fighting the chechens? i just dont get it. the chechens have been at war with russia for a long time, i dont see the russians allowing the british into what they consider russian territory. i realize that there isnt a russian side in PR, but this one map just ruins the realism factor for me :-( and on that note, PR could really use a russian team lol im sorry i know its been suggested before.

atleast its not as unthinkable as the US fighting mexico like in Ghost recon 2 {ughh...}
The russians are coming!!! there is a Community project being done as we speak. Check out the community forums section you will see. The Canadians and polish factions are far along too. the only thing they all need really are maps.

Posted: 2007-07-20 05:52
by eggman
whomever said they were Chechens is mistaken. It's a generic militia faction which we may evolve to be more specific in the future.

Posted: 2007-07-20 06:47
by tekkyy
This has been mentioned a few times before.
Mestia Chechens as the question and no as the answer.

If I recall correctly somewhere in the wiki is giving wrong information to new comers.

Posted: 2007-07-20 07:12
by Wolfe
china or not, Mestia is one of the best maps to date. Sure, they're coming at your from every angle, but at least there's places to hide. Also great for getting a server started because it plays well with 2 people and 64.

Posted: 2007-07-20 07:29
by Top_Cat_AxJnAt
WOW solodude, that is really unlucky becuase i can overall play better on that map and i do so becuase the size, terrain and flags fit perfectly with 0.6 gameplay - it is signficantly realisic and therefore allows for sick flanking tactics from start to finish!
Also the asemetrical teams mean that players have to adjust there tactics for each team.

MY ADVISE: As militia, Consider a point where the british should pass adn AMBUSH AMBUSH AMBUSH! 1 Sapper can do the job start the job well adn a few AKs can finish it off nicely.
Also dont be afraid to run for engagmenets becuase the UK have the advantage in a normal firefight. For example if you take a flag and know the UK will attack it shorty, pull out of the flag area and hide say 50m or more away. Let the UK enter teh flag area unhindered and then HIT THEM when their guard is down becuase they think the area is clear of enemies!

As British you should utalise the limited kits more, namely the support gun, L-At and Gren. kit. You have easier access to these type of weapons than the militia. Really Rock those bunkers with 40mm shells and rockets!
While the Rifleman kit with scope and the markesman allow you to engage at longer range much more effectively than the militia. So look for high ground, with cover that over looks enemies routs or flags but is long enough distance to make it difficult for them to hit you with out scopes.
Combine this fire that attracts attention with a stealthy flank from the opposite direction and you might just be able to plain OWN!

Posted: 2007-07-20 07:37
by Top_Cat_AxJnAt
Squadlead and let others do the killing for you. If you manage to issue a few relavent orders now and then, your inablity to kill and general suckyness will be almost totaly masked. I know becuase there are times when i suck BIG.
Also remeber they can die for you, so aswell as having an excuse for no kills you can avoid dying at the same time (hidings behind a shrubery "planning")!

Ill shh now, i just hate to see a man with a ginormous post count and general legend in such a way!

Posted: 2007-07-20 07:49
by Skullening.Chris
tekkyy wrote:This has been mentioned a few times before.
Mestia Chechens as the question and no as the answer.

If I recall correctly somewhere in the wiki is giving wrong information to new comers.
http://guide.realitymod.com/index.php?t ... ia_Faction

It says "Militia are Chechen based faction, who are more advanced than insurgents but are not like the conventional armies. More info TBA."

Posted: 2007-07-20 08:33
by robbo
charliegrs wrote:i love PR because the theaters of war are in the near future but very realistic. US against china? pretty realistic we arent exactly best friends. US against a middle eastern coalition? seems realistic to me, i mean the middle eastern nations have joined forces many times in the past to try to destroy israel. But one theater that i really cant get a grip on is mestia. i mean why exactly are the british fighting the chechens? i just dont get it. the chechens have been at war with russia for a long time, i dont see the russians allowing the british into what they consider russian territory. i realize that there isnt a russian side in PR, but this one map just ruins the realism factor for me :-( and on that note, PR could really use a russian team lol im sorry i know its been suggested before.

atleast its not as unthinkable as the US fighting mexico like in Ghost recon 2 {ughh...}
Mestia is probably one of if not the most realistic theater in PR because the the British military has been fighting in Balkans/Eastern Europe for a long time example Kosovo which has similar terrain to that of mestia.

The Militia faction could range from Chechen's to Bosnian militia all sorts too many to list.

Posted: 2007-07-20 09:58
by Outlawz7
Yeah, I find it really confusing, that it says, that Mestia is in the Balkan region? I thought Chechens we're on Caucasus?

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:02
by daranz
A Middle Eastern Coalition is fighting US and British forces all over Middle East, insurgents are crawling all over Basra, there seems to be a full-on war with China... I guess a bunch of Chechen rebels could've wandered off somewhere.

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:05
by .:iGi:.BLACKWIRE
And the British fighting the Chinese is realistic?! C'mon... get over it.

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:12
by Outlawz7
daranz wrote:A Middle Eastern Coalition is fighting US and British forces all over Middle East, insurgents are crawling all over Basra, there seems to be a full-on war with China... I guess a bunch of Chechen rebels could've wandered off somewhere.
:roll:

So then the Russian faction could also wander off, fight Poland or Ukraine and make a lil PoE2 scene in PRM :p

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:18
by robbo
Their not essentially Chechen Militia its BASED on Chechen rebels, Militia in the Balkans is a common occurance by British forces
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British soldier with a Kosovan Soldier

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Very similar to the Terrain in Mestia minus the snow :-P
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Mestia is a very REALISTIC map based on Real life operations i would think.

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:22
by bosco_
Yeah, just imagine the Militia to be some kind of Kosovo fighter or whatever if that is so important for your gameplay experience.

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:40
by wujj123456
Skullening.Chris wrote:http://guide.realitymod.com/index.php?t ... ia_Faction

It says "Militia are Chechen based faction, who are more advanced than insurgents but are not like the conventional armies. More info TBA."
I think it means the level of weapons is based on Chechen, not the political background.

Posted: 2007-07-20 10:43
by Outlawz7
'[R-PUB wrote:bosco']Yeah, just imagine the Militia to be some kind of Kosovo fighter or whatever if that is so important for your gameplay experience.
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Its been like 8 years, since anyone fired a shot down there.
I sometimes cant believe, that people living in Europe have no idea, whats happening on the same continent, they live on :d uh:
Ill stop here, cos I smell the IBTL due politics..