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Zatar overhaul?
Posted: 2007-07-23 12:27
by Outlawz7
Ive played this map for a couple of times now and it seems, that 2 CAS jets on each side are 1.) overkill and 2.) useless due the map size and view distance.
Whenever I flew in the A10 I had to constantly turn around, because of the map size and the fact, than I could only get a lock on something in a split second
I understand, that the 2 CAS jets are there to counter the mass of armor on each side, but I think they are useless, also people who use joysticks, fly slow and low - again becuase of the map size and view distance - and usually crash or get shot down by a tank.
I think, the Frogfoots and A10s should be removed and replaced with attack choppers
Also, how do you even rearm and land on that small airstrip with hills around??
Posted: 2007-07-23 14:25
by MisterX
Mhhh i remeber some pilots which really pissed me of on zatar

I guess the key is to fly kinda slow and come from high above.
Posted: 2007-07-23 14:29
by LtSoucy
ya cobras and stuff would work better.
Posted: 2007-07-23 20:57
by Expendable Grunt
I agree. While I have not flown, it feels too small to have heavy aircraft.
Posted: 2007-07-23 21:14
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
Im biased towards helicopters anyway as I dont really do jets but I think a transport helicopter at least would help stir up the game with more flanking
Posted: 2007-07-24 00:33
by IronTaxi
we will take the jets out...it was a bit of an oversight since wi did the Zatar audit very early in the .6 development cycle..and then it kinda got stored and forgotten until the final stages..
Posted: 2007-07-24 00:42
by Outlawz7
IMO, I'd like to see LBs and MEC scout chopper the ONLY air assets, so no air cover, full metal carnage ftw

Posted: 2007-07-24 06:35
by fuzzhead
No air assets.
Posted: 2007-07-24 08:48
by jackal22
tbh i was never a fan of vanilla maps comming back, dalian i think is too un pr-able teamwork wise, have to say ive never played zatar yet.
imo jalabad should have been brought back instead, i played it on vanilla the other day and i was thinking wow this map would rock with pr kits anc vehicles.
you got a nice vehicle type battle with open ground followed by intense city fighting with small allyways and narrow streets.
Posted: 2007-07-24 09:19
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
I'd like this map with proper attack helis if the planes are going, the oil pipelines provide excellent cover for smart tanks.
Jalalabad is a good vanilla map, my most played of all but its a bit compact compared to any pr map especially when they removed Inishail Forest from the game.
Not sure I could really see bunkers, etc working on this map. Great as an experiment but whose going to mod it

Posted: 2007-07-24 10:42
by jackal22
didnt think of bunkers lol or comander truck it would be a pain trying to move that thing. i would however like some sort of map in pr to resemble the city in jalabad because its so different to any others in game in any of the mods. everything is so close together that it would mean putting sand bags or razor wire down would create nice check points on roads that your team would controle.
i would like a more i guess street for street type map as opposed to block by block maps that most city maps are.
Posted: 2007-07-24 12:48
by Outlawz7
jackal22 wrote:tbh i was never a fan of vanilla maps comming back, dalian i think is too un pr-able teamwork wise, have to say ive never played zatar yet.
imo jalabad should have been brought back instead, i played it on vanilla the other day and i was thinking wow this map would rock with pr kits anc vehicles.
you got a nice vehicle type battle with open ground followed by intense city fighting with small allyways and narrow streets.
Its Daquin, not Dalian...
Also, you have the PRfied vanilla maps avaiable for SP, you can play Jalabad USMC vs Insurgents, I think...
Posted: 2007-07-24 13:36
by Expendable Grunt
I don't get any maps in single player. Not that I play SP anymore.
Personally I thought Zatar was a great map once they PRified it. I don't get the message though -- why are we fighting over natural gas again?
Posted: 2007-07-24 14:48
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
Theres been trouble between russia and the baltic states over natural gas
Posted: 2007-07-24 15:22
by Outlawz7
Expendable Grunt wrote:I don't get any maps in single player. Not that I play SP anymore.
Singe Player forums here, you could download them for 0.5...
Posted: 2007-07-24 15:27
by fuzzhead
im prety certain there will be no more vanilla maps converted to PR...
gulf of oman
zatar wetlands
daqing oilfields
they are there to fill out the map list a bit, and they dont take up too much space... i dont think they play too bad but they just dont seem too fresh..
Posted: 2007-07-24 15:31
by Outlawz7
Stalemate of stale maps
Posted: 2007-07-24 16:32
by Eddiereyes909
I would really like to see karkand that was my favored map in all of vBF2 until the grenade spammers ruined it

Posted: 2007-07-24 17:08
by youm0nt
Karkand won't work out. Mastuur City, Road to Jalalabad, and Dragon Valley... Mashtuur City can be nice with USMC vs MEC. Jalalabad with USMC vs insurgents, and Dragon Valley just for another PLA vs USMC map.
Posted: 2007-07-24 17:14
by ReaperMAC
Anyone try out Highway Tampa yet?