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240G Machine Gun on top of LAV-25

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:31
by Gamer836475
This is supposed to be the realistic mod right....why no 240 g on top of the lav25? It would be awesome to have a top gunner and passengers will have an option to be there instead of in the back with a tiny periscope.

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Posted: 2007-07-30 03:37
by ReaperMAC
Hi welcome to the forums! The problem is, there are already 8 seats in the APC (the max for the BF2 engine) so having a mounted MG on Top of the turret would be meaningless. LAVs have an MG as a secondary weapon (when you right click as a gunner).

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:38
by 3===SPECTER===3
it can watch the back side in case enmy infantry try to sneek up?

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:41
by ReaperMAC
3===SPECTER===3 wrote:it can watch the back side in case enmy infantry try to sneek up?
1 Driver, 1 Gunnner, and 6 passengers, how can you fit another manned gun if the max is 8 people per vehicle?

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:42
by youm0nt
ReaperMAC wrote:Hi welcome to the forums!
He needs a welcome?
Join Date: Mar 2007 :-P
3===SPECTER===3 wrote:it can watch the back side in case enmy infantry try to sneek up?
That's why we have position five for that. That's the back door gunner position ;-)

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:48
by geogob
ReaperMAC wrote:1 Driver, 1 Gunnner, and 6 passengers, how can you fit another manned gun if the max is 8 people per vehicle?
How about something as simple as 1 Driver, 1 Gunner, 1 machine gunner, 5 passengers. Simple uh?

Posted: 2007-07-30 03:59
by ReaperMAC
youm0nt wrote:He needs a welcome?
Join Date: Mar 2007
Heh oops... only looked at his post count
geogob wrote:How about something as simple as 1 Driver, 1 Gunner, 1 machine gunner, 5 passengers. Simple uh?
True, though passengers can serve the same purpose when firing out of the porthole. Just that I see there isnt really an utter use for a mounted MG on the top. If infantry are sneaking and killing you from behind, something you are doing must be wrong ;-)

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:02
by Desertfox
Would require 2 new models. The MG and the LAV-25.

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:23
by pasfreak
huh?

i thought the gpmg/m240 were already in development

and the lav-25 already exists...right?

i mean, if its REAL, then it should be in game, thats what this mod is all about..am I missing something?

who cares about how useful it is, thats what you worry about after you try it.

its IRL, so it should be IG, period.

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:26
by pasfreak
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Posted: 2007-07-30 04:33
by Desertfox
pasfreak wrote:huh?

i thought the gpmg/m240 were already in development

and the lav-25 already exists...right?

i mean, if its REAL, then it should be in game, thats what this mod is all about..am I missing something?

who cares about how useful it is, thats what you worry about after you try it.

its IRL, so it should be IG, period.
Even if the guns are done and in-game, the LAV-25 would still require a re-model because there is no turret on top.

Just because it is real doesn't mean it has to be ingame.... things take time to model, texture etc.

If they made something then just scrapped it that is time taken away from real game play issues etc:

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:35
by eddie
pasfreak wrote:huh?

i thought the gpmg/m240 were already in development

and the lav-25 already exists...right?

i mean, if its REAL, then it should be in game, thats what this mod is all about..am I missing something?

who cares about how useful it is, thats what you worry about after you try it.

its IRL, so it should be IG, period.
Well IRL the Apache has a lock on and fire range of 8km, but we're not using that because it's a game...

It's really not a priority to re-model/texture/blah blah a whole new LAV-25.

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:45
by pasfreak
ok.

Posted: 2007-07-30 04:52
by DarkTalon
heres the original pasfreak. :D
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Posted: 2007-07-30 05:05
by Teek
DarkTalon wrote:heres the original pasfreak. :D
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Thats why that picture looked familar!
Also I was thinking that would be great to ad a big monster or something in that big desert.
lol

Posted: 2007-07-30 05:08
by azn_chopsticks_boi
metal gear?!?!

Posted: 2007-07-30 05:19
by Outlawz7
2142 meets BF2?

Posted: 2007-07-30 07:20
by ReaperMAC
Bah! Put in transformers :D

Posted: 2007-07-30 18:33
by SevenOfDiamonds
Could it be that the 2 seats in the very back could have the players standing looking out? and take away the port holes?

I dont know if that would require a remodel or just a simple fix. Like putting tape over the holes.

Posted: 2007-07-30 22:36
by Eddie Baker
ReaperMAC wrote:1 Driver, 1 Gunnner, and 6 passengers, how can you fit another manned gun if the max is 8 people per vehicle?
The LAV-25 is used in the Marines as a reconnaissance vehicle rather than an "battle-taxi," and in practice can hold only 4 dismount scouts with full gear. 3-4 scouts are the usual dismount element for a LAR squad. Once there are other APCs/IFVs implemented, I would like to see the passenger slots changed to 4 and the mobile spawn removed from the LAV-25. Then maybe we can think about adding the commander's M240E/D, but it would still be a suicide position.