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Kashan losing value...quickly

Posted: 2007-08-17 09:45
by Fenix16
When Kashan first came out, I was all for it. Really big map, whoohoo. And I'll admit, if you have a team that's working together it still is a blast. However nowadays the chances of jumping in a server and getting on a team with 31 other competent team mates are very slim.

So now were left with you (wanting to play at least half seriously), and 31 vanilla noobs who are jumping around at the airbase asking when the jets spawn. The worst part is that some servers have it running almost every other map. Enough is enough already, if your a server admin, PLEASE even up the rotation a bit with a few more older maps.

Normally things like this don't bother me enough to make a post. Just with a map this large, teamwork is REQUIRED.

Posted: 2007-08-17 09:57
by AfterDune
Fenix16 wrote:Just with a map this large, teamwork is REQUIRED.
W00t w00t! Yeeeeess!!! :p

I hardly play Kashan and must say it doesn't come across that often on the servers I play on. Kashan requires teamwork indeed. Without that, you're almost doomed to fail :p .

Perhaps you can try to find other servers that suit your needs more?

Posted: 2007-08-17 10:27
by Xander[nl]
I love to play the 32p version, with half my team waiting for jets that will never spawn... -_-

Posted: 2007-08-17 10:30
by Outlawz7
'Xander[nl wrote:;460544']I love to play the 32p version, with half my team waiting for jets that will never spawn... -_-

I played 32p, when servers went over all maps to see, how they play and had 3 people waiting for the A10...and thats just the A10, also had 1-2 at hangars for F16...

Posted: 2007-08-17 11:35
by Expendable Grunt
Yeah it's a great map and I'd like to organize a scrim there, but on a public server...

Posted: 2007-08-17 11:37
by LtSoucy
its becasue people dont like the huge iopen spots.

Posted: 2007-08-17 12:05
by swiftdraw
LtSoucy wrote:its becasue people dont like walking the huge iopen spots.
Fixed that for ya' :wink:

Posted: 2007-08-17 12:58
by Long Bow
The map can play really poorly if you have a team that doesn't work together. The map plays even worse if booth teams lack teamwork.

These two conditions will ruin any PR map now-a-days. However due to the sheer size of Kashan it is much more obvious.

Posted: 2007-08-17 13:04
by MAINERROR
kashan on 32 players is pretty cool but the serveradmins should put this message in the announcer "This is the 32 player version of Kashan. Don't waste your time wating for the A-10!" ^^

Posted: 2007-08-17 13:07
by Scarlet_Pimp
I think Kashan is too big so i tend to look for other servers, you really need to be organisd to get the most out of this map. Larger player counts might help make it more exciting. I hope the team release some more smaller maps as well in the future.

Posted: 2007-08-17 13:15
by Farks
As soon as the AA- weapons becomes more powerfull/realistic, and the map gets more transport veichles (hopefully in 0.7) it could really rock.

Posted: 2007-08-17 13:31
by MAINERROR
yeah we need more humvee's on kashan 64 and maybe one blackhawk more.

Posted: 2007-08-17 13:37
by {GD}Ghost
Long Bow wrote:The map can play really poorly if you have a team that doesn't work together. The map plays even worse if booth teams lack teamwork.

These two conditions will ruin any PR map now-a-days. However due to the sheer size of Kashan it is much more obvious.
I feel the pain of the original poster. Because PR does require teamwork for a team to be successful (outside of the other team sucking worse or luck) when a majority of people who "play' PR are not teamwork minded or do not understand what teamwork requires of them, its not going to be very enjoyable.....especially on a map like this. Yes, I also cringe everytime the sever starts loading up that map and if I see a server palying that map, I do not join.

I still play because once in a while, I am still able to find a few good teamplayers out of the clueless gaggle playing out there and THAT is a great time.

Posted: 2007-08-17 14:47
by Farks
MAINERROR wrote:yeah we need more humvee's on kashan 64 and maybe one blackhawk more.
There should be a transport vehicle somewhere between the 4x4 ones and the APCs. A vehicle that offers the protection from the APCs, but with less firepower in order to force the players to use it as a transport. Just a mounted machinegun so it can protect itself from infantry.

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:12
by eddie
We need about one more HMMWV on that map, the DEVs have given plenty to get squads around that map.

The trouble is the players. Server admins should try to admin on Kashan as much as possible. If someone's camping for a jet they should be told to GTFO. There's no harm in wanting a jet, but two or three people on the runway and at the hangar..... nah, it's just ridiculous.

If only we could have training like AA to be able to use specific vehicles and weapons.

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:15
by {GD}Ghost
eddie wrote:.....If only we could have training like AA to be able to use specific vehicles and weapons.
That is one of the best ideas I've heard in a long time in regard to PR. Too bad it isn't possible.

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:16
by fuzzhead
32 version plays MUCH better than 64 for kashan....

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:17
by eddie
{GD}Ghost wrote:That is one of the best ideas I've heard in a long time in regard to PR. Too bad it isn't possible.
Lol, someone mentioned it a few months ago. I think I remember a DEV winking.

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:33
by {GD}Ghost
eddie wrote:Lol, someone mentioned it a few months ago. I think I remember a DEV winking.

I must have missed that. One can only hope.

Posted: 2007-08-17 15:40
by maz.uk
good map but if your not there from the start your domed as all the vehicals will be gone or some noob has blown them up