Project Reality Forums

I felt I should post this thread to explain something to the general Community about the Training Team.

Why?

1. First lets look at a few threads:

http://realitymod.com/forum/t26418.html

A few Quotes from within !

BeerHunter wrote://rant on


I keep reading mention of all the “morons” from vBF2 that disrupt PR games as well as then being called “CS Kiddies” whether or not they have ever played CS.



When you play online, you’re going to run into these types of players no matter what game you play and believe me, they don’t all come from CS or vBF2.

So maybe try a wee bit harder to drop the elitist attitude, deflate your ego a wee bit

//rant off

El_Vikingo wrote:CS nub!

PR was once a haven, it is now hell....

I don't think it's elitist attitude, I think its the fact that these CS/BF2v kiidiez come along and just act.... non sensible.

What if your favourite pub, was suddenly invaded by 13 year old bacardi breezer drinking kiddies?

[quote=""'[R-PUB"]Masaq;460360']Yup. Utterly fed up with PR players giving the whole "If you've not been here since 0.2 and if you play vBF2/CS/Any non-PR game you're a nub" attitude and all of that.

That includes the "Suggested before; use the search button" fraternity.

Frankly you make the average PR joe just trying to have a good game look like elitist shmucks. Get over yourselves already and accept that PR is a game, nothing more. Your high and mighty attitude does yourselves and the mod in general no favours.[/quote]




This thread:


http://realitymod.com/forum/t26299.html

[R-PUB]MrD wrote:Recently I've noticed a lot of slow down on the servers where squads are concerned.



If you can play (and I mean REALLY play) then I suggest some spreading of the love across the servers. Don't just hit the same servers, with the same players and the same squad lineups. There are some happy, contented players out there who appreciate what the mod is and they need some guiding to fulfill their capacity.

Get out there, guide squads around, find the balance between a democracy and a marxist method of teaching them so they don't get their backs up and get them upto SPEED!!!

This mod expands by word of mouth and we have to grab the good players and show them what the mod can achieve gameplay wise so the love spreads.

Notice there is NO mention of any one at all helping others out (Apart From the above one, where nothing happened and everyone went on about gameplay ??)


Or this one !!!!

http://realitymod.com/forum/t25810.html

1st Post :

[quote="{GD}Ghost""]Please bear with me during my rant as I vent some frustration. If you are a troller or do not wish to read said rant, close the thread now and don't complain afterwards.

Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble finding a decent server to play on lately? I had the evening completely to myself so I wanted to get online for some quality PR time with a good squad.

It seems as if finding a quality server with quality players on it is getting more and more difficult to find. It wasn't like this during open beta. There were fewer servers, but better gameplay/teamplayers on the few that were there. Now, I find locked servers, servers labeled "teamplay" and not a lick of actual teamplay going on...only fucktardery, or a majority of people on the server do not speak English, which is fine, but it makes communication nearly impossible, a couple people on this server, a couple people on that server, servers running vBF2 maps. Its getting ridiculous.

Its getting to the point where I don't really want to even take the time going from server to server trying to find a decent squad to play with anymore because finding one (if one can be found) takes forever. Since so much of this game relys on teamwork, if you have a shit team, you're not gonna have much fun at all. Sadly, the shit squads outnumber the good ones 10 to 1.

I know its been mentioned before and I have to say I agree with having a server that is by invite only for people who know what teamplay involves in PR. I know this is not going to happen, but I have to say if it did, I'd be all for it.

PR Devs, you've got a gem of a mod here, but sometimes I think you give your community too much credit. Do they really have the competence to handle this mod as you intended it? Or are most people trying to find a way to undo, ignore or circumvent the hard work you've put into this? WE have some great teamplayers here whether we get along with them all or not, but they are far outnumbered by the fucktards that ruin it for the rest of the community and do not take the time to learn the basics of the game or simply disregard the whole "teamplay" aspect that we all strive for.

Disappointedly

{GD}Ghost[/quote]


Any mention of Helping "Train" these "Tards" ............... No just a request for a private server for "Pro PR Players" ??






I think you see what I mean, and I by no means intend to "slag" of anyone by quoting them, but enough is enough.

2. I, and a lot of others on here, as I am sure you will agree are getting a little fed up with all this constant bickering about "n00bs", RTFM, blah blah. It does not help or constitute anything other than - a **** load of posts that ends in nothing being resolved anyway ?


3. Yes its true we are now seeing a different set of players - why?

Because they do not understand PR in its entirity, they will play as they do until they are shown the right way.

Yes there are guides out there (so dont even start that one), but a picture (as they say) paints a thousand words ?

You do not join the Army, and read a manual, and thats it - your in, you "practice" as well.

People play PR for a number of reasons, and I reckon 90% of the community play for fun TBH.

People do not want to sit for 2 hours after downloading a new mod and read the Guide - they wanna play it, its human nature (I bet we all did the same if we are honest)

Younger Players especially would rather be "shown" in a controlled environment how to play this Mod ............ and I can guarantee once they understand its concept of Teamplay, will use it effectively, as they will have seen the benefits of it.



4. The Training





So to that end we have set up the "Official PR Training Team"

Where you can change it - become a PR Instructor

[PR-I]

This will run on the Official PR Server, once a week, and will be made up of a number of Instructors - from the community, under the control of R-PUB Masaq.

The server will run in its own Profile with the settings you want set up, it will be passworded so Training can be carried out, you will have your own TS Channel to coach the students.

Each week people will sign up for training and a Plan will be put together in your own Training Team Forum as to what will be carried out during the training.



After a few months you should be able to see the improvement of players on our server.



So if you have ranted on in the past, or are fed up of the public servers at the moment, then instead of sitting back and whining on about ............... help out and become an Instructor ??


If you are interested, and want to really give something back to the community please post your Application to become a PR Instructor here:

http://realitymod.com/forum/t25683.html





Alternatively if you feel you could do with being given some Training then please feel free to sign up here:

http://realitymod.com/forum/t25882.html





You will all be surprised the difference that can be made here ???










(Longest post I have made for a while .... phew )

Great idea, this is what PR has been needing. I've been suggesting this for a while, usually just casually with members of my clan. I usually said something about the training in America's Army, but this is a great idea. I may sign up to be an instructor.

*EDIT* Ok, I probably won't sign up to be an instructor, but I will most likely do the training, just for fun really. See how much I didn't know about this game. I've been playing since early .5, so I'm not "1337 nub pwnz0rz", but I pretty much know .6 with my eyes closed. But like I said, I'll probably do the training to see what it's like. Peace.

VERY VERY good idea, and i dont think you really needed to put all the quotes in or go to so much trouble, i suspect the entire community will praise this idea..........................................................................................
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..................................maybe, minus vikingo j/k

great idea UK_Force!

sorry for reviving this...I cant resist it

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/t12685.html


Here I suggested to put RPUBS to work as trainers around the servers

and in this one with this weird name I suggest to eggman to get drunk and make love with some other RDEV for having a baby called R-trainer of something

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/t8191.html

..just to show some ideas

good idea force

Batalla35 wrote:and in this one with this weird name I suggest to eggman to get drunk and make love with son

:

EDIT: No worries Just that your spelling mistake looked very wrong in meaning something completely different from what you meant

[R-DEV]Gaz wrote: :

oopppsss sorry for my english edited now

Very good idea i could instruct the german-speaking players!

Okay guys, so explain to me when I post in here 10 days ago about the Training Team and ask people to step forward to help instruct, no-one pays any attention and it lapses onto page 4 of threads within 48 hours, but when a Dev points it out, you clamour to help? Gah!

Anyways, that's moot.

What's not is that within a few weeks we want to have the Project Reality Training Team (PRTT) up and running.

• We will be training on Thursday evenings UK time - 1900BST (GMT+1).
• We will be using the GloryHoundz server, passworded
• There will be several instructors available to help with varying areas of PR gameplay
• There will be both practice time and organised "live fire" skirmishes against other pupils
• At 2000hrs, we will be joining the [ABA] guys for a friendly scrim - a chance to take on the professionals head-to-head!

If you want to help with instruction, the following criteria should be met:

• Mature, teamwork-orientated attitude
• Available most (if not all) Thursday evenings UK time
• Willing to be patient and help others
• Be reasonably proficient at the skills you're enlisted to teach!

We're looking for between 2-4 more instructors. By posting on the above thread you are *not* being automatically being given a spot as an instructor, it's an application only and the final team will be decided closer to the time.

[R-PUB]Masaq wrote:Okay guys, so explain to me when I post in here 10 days ago about the Training Team and ask people to step forward to help instruct, no-one pays any attention and it lapses onto page 4 of threads within 48 hours, but when a Dev points it out, you clamour to help? Gah!

Lol.......

I dont know what to type .... lol




Anyway

Masaq is the Guy who is gonna be heading this all up - so please lets give him some Help here, and get a decent set of Instructors to help do this Training


Thank you


UKF

Wouldn't it be a wise move to make it FRIDAY evening, UK time? Some players have school and that might interrupt Thursday Evening.

Well I signed up.Nice idea UK_Force,I like it.

Expendable Grunt wrote:Wouldn't it be a wise move to make it FRIDAY evening, UK time? Some players have school and that might interrupt Thursday Evening.

The rationale for Thursday currently is that it's the same night that the [ABA] guys have their training.

That means the PRTT can meet for an hour, then from 8pm onwards have a ready-made opposing force to play against - it means the players trying to practice stuff get the chance to try it in a 'real' situation instead of just in a practice scenario, and it gives the [ABA] lads a regular OPFOR.

If, come term-time, we really struggle to get the interest on a Thurday night I guess we can look at switching to a Friday/weekend, but for now at least a Thursday is where it's at.

Was there not some kind of training a couple of months ago?

Regardless if there was or wasn't (I have no idea) this is a new scheme and is ultimately coming endoresed from the PR team, on a regular basis, with a set standard of instruction on core skills.

The fact that some folks on these forums have been whining endlessly about the lack of teamplay and such on public servers recently would imply that if there was some training done a few months ago, it obviously hasn't met the need - tho' I do doubt if some people will ever be happy with the quality of anyone else's gameplay

Well unfortuneatly I can't help as I've got classes during that time. In the future however...

My thanks to everyone who's either put themselves forward or who has been approached about helping out.

We should have enough instructors available now, I'll be posting in here if we don't.

In the mean time, keep signing up for training too - remember it's not just for new players: if there's any part of the game you struggle with and want to know more about, we can help (hopefully!).

If I can just add here too:

If Guys want Training on a different night, then Fine as long as we know in advance and have people available then thats great.

Who Knows if it becomes popular enough we could have it running every night, with a different theme each night ?

Each week could be ?


Mon - Commander Skills
Tue - SL Skills
Wed - Helo Skills
Thu, etc, etc, etc


Its totally up to you guys.


You need to help out to develop this and make it work.




Finally a big thanks to the guys who have joined the forums specifically to receive training - that really does say something

(ie, I dont talk **** all the time )






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if your training jihad tactics Masaq, make sure you jump in the right car first


ill give SL training a go