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*admins, i searched for ths before, if its been suggested before, sorry*
I suggest that the MEC or Chinese have the SU-27 "Flanker"
1)this will be an efficient fighter
2)it will be the equivelent to the F-35(when it comes back)
-it is a mulit-role fighter/bomber/interceptor (strike fighter)
-it can carry laser guided missiles and bombs like the F-35
3) Even if the MEC dont recieve this, the chinese should

"The acquisition of Su-27, after China had attempted for years to develop the J-10 aircraft with equivalent technology to perform similar functions, demonstrates a lack of confidence in domestic industrial capabilities.
In 1991 China purchased an initial batch of 24 SU-27s for about $1 billion which were delivered in late 1992 and based at Wuhu Air Base..."
also here, at this link http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/aircraft/j-11.htm

4) when you create the Russian team, they wont use the MiG-29 since they cant afford it, they use the SU-27, so...... the Flanker will need to be in PR sooner or later
*once again, i didnt see it suggested before so if it was, sorry*

could be great in PR vs new Brit and US fighters.

Sorry to be an ***, but this is really pointless considering how we already have the Su-30 ready for use on the Chinese team. Really begs the question, why bother making a whole new model when we have a two seater version with virtually no difference between the two that would effect gameplay.

and you make a good point also.

I'm for whatever involves having more stuff to kill pixels with.

BetterDeadThanRed wrote:we already have the Su-30 ready for use on the Chinese team. why bother making a whole new model when we have a two seater version with virtually no difference between the two that would effect gameplay.

good question, this is the answer:
the SU-30 requires 2 people to use(such as the laser guided missiles)

think about the majority of the attack helicopters you've been in, they usually arent YAY! we killed most of the enemies and got 1st and 2nd place scores! its usually. sorry I crashed, or Sorry, lagg or, oops, they shot us down

if you have a 1 seater jet, it eliminates the need for 2 people to use a jet(many times the people are nubs, since 0.6 is bringing on new people who dont read the manual and test fly things.
it also eliminates the need to hold still for the gunner to fire WHILE locking on the target. Yuo just lock on for 2 seconds for the LGMs, then they self guide on the target
finally and least important(to some people) it eliminates the sorry feeling if you die or especially crash

also, if they get permission, the Devs could use the SU-27 from POE2, its already in action, they just need permission to use it, then try to put it in

this can be the "equivalent"(i know it isnt) of the A10 for the PLA , since the Q5 only have dumb bombs .

i fully endorce this event or product .

77SiCaRiO77 wrote:this can be the "equivalent"(i know it isnt) of the A10 for the PLA , since the Q5 only have dumb bombs .

i fully endorce this event or product .

thanks, but i meant it can be the equivelent of the F-35 ground attack version
but thats ok, since the F-35 will replace the Harrier, F16, and A-10 itself

I dont think the F-35 will get back anytime soon.

'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;529754']4) when you create the Russian team, they wont use the MiG-29 since they cant afford it, they use the SU-27, so...... the Flanker will need to be in PR sooner or later
*once again, i didnt see it suggested before so if it was, sorry*

Russia can afford MiG-29s, they have hundreds of both MiG-29s and Su-27s. The MiG-29 was built as a light fighter, similar to the F-16, while the Su-27 is a heavy figher, similar to the F-15. The MiG-29's shorter range means that it is used to provide local air superiority more than the longer-ranged Su-27. The small area that battles in PR take place in means that the MiG-29 is more suitable.

^theres the answer

[R-CON]TheDarkOverlord wrote:Russia can afford MiG-29s, they have hundreds of both MiG-29s and Su-27s. The MiG-29 was built as a light fighter, similar to the F-16, while the Su-27 is a heavy figher, similar to the F-15. The MiG-29's shorter range means that it is used to provide local air superiority more than the longer-ranged Su-27. The small area that battles in PR take place in means that the MiG-29 is more suitable.

as I recently heard from the Military channel, talking about Soviet/Russian aviation, they DO INFACT have MiG-29 Fulcrum's, but when the USSR collapsed into Russia, it can no longer afford any more Fulcrums, but yes they do have Fulcrums, but they dont have any more, and cant afford any more im saying put in the SU-27s for the Russian team(when the Russian part of PR comes out) and the Chinese team.

'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;530478']as I recently heard from the Military channel, talking about Soviet/Russian aviation, they DO INFACT have MiG-29 Fulcrum's, but when the USSR collapsed into Russia, it can no longer afford any more Fulcrums, but yes they do have Fulcrums, but they dont have any more, and cant afford any more im saying put in the SU-27s for the Russian team(when the Russian part of PR comes out) and the Chinese team.

I can't find much information the cost of a MiG-29 or Su-27, and the information I can find varies, listing the price of a MiG-29 anywhere from half the cost of a Su-27 to slightly less then the cost of a Su-27. But I doubt a MiG-29 costs more. But I doubt Russia is producing many more MiG-29s or Su-27s, because they have enough aircraft and both types of aircrat are supposed to be eventually replaced by the PAK FA. So I would think Russia would be more focused on upgrading it's current MiG-29s/Su-27s instead of building more. Anyways, PR is in the near future, and Russia will still have plenty of MiG-29s, and the role of the Su-27 can not properly be represented in PR.

'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;530478']as I recently heard from the Military channel, talking about Soviet/Russian aviation, they DO INFACT have MiG-29 Fulcrum's, but when the USSR collapsed into Russia, it can no longer afford any more Fulcrums, but yes they do have Fulcrums, but they dont have any more, and cant afford any more im saying put in the SU-27s for the Russian team(when the Russian part of PR comes out) and the Chinese team.

The Military Channel isn't a hard source of information. Just a thought.

^^Yup...

[R-CON]TheDarkOverlord wrote:I can't find much information the cost of a MiG-29 or Su-27, and the information I can find varies, listing the price of a MiG-29 anywhere from half the cost of a Su-27 to slightly less then the cost of a Su-27. But I doubt a MiG-29 costs more. But I doubt Russia is producing many more MiG-29s or Su-27s, because they have enough aircraft and both types of aircrat are supposed to be eventually replaced by the PAK FA. So I would think Russia would be more focused on upgrading it's current MiG-29s/Su-27s instead of building more. Anyways, PR is in the near future, and Russia will still have plenty of MiG-29s, and the role of the Su-27 can not properly be represented in PR.

so........the multi role strike fighter will go to what?
is Russia going to have the SU-39.....or what? will you make a ground attack jet for Russia, or make a special MiG-29 modifiled strike fighter?

PS; if you ever have Russia vs America(likley), if it is US Army vs Russia, and the US gets its F-22, then Russia might be able to get the MiG-29 OVT?

F-22 is Air Force... not army. Army will probably still use the same CAS aircraft, the A-10 and the F-16. In fact,the USMC use the F/A-18 instead of the two used right now, which are supposed to be for the Army. Multirole Strike Fighters don't have much use on our current grounds, as they literally have hundreds of miles they can cover before they need to refuel, not like the OA-10 and the F-16 as of now, which are CAS/ light fighter respectively. Also the F-22 is an air superiority fighter, not meant to carry munitions for the ground, although it can. We need the Harrier however (which is imcoming, don't forget that), that is used very commonly by the marine corp.

Chaosdragon001 wrote:F-22 is Air Force... not army. Army will probably still use the same CAS aircraft,

actually, the US Army Does infact use the F-22 currently, the Marines, Navy, and Air Force will use the F-35A,B,and C. The air force will also use the F-22.
Air Force;
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f22/
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/

Highly doubt it will replace the f/a18 soon

'[=TC= wrote:nuetron;530976']actually, the US Army Does infact use the F-22 currently,

You sure? The US Army operating its own fighters?