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Op. barras map idea

Posted: 2007-11-23 10:35
by arjan
In 1999 the British SAS pulled off what many consider to be their greatest mission of all time. A group of rebels in the West African country of Sierra Leone had taken 11 British soldiers hostage. The British soldiers had been on peacekeeping operations. The rebels were a famously brutal group – called The West Side Boys - known for amputating the limbs of civilians for fun and forcing children to become rebel fighters. Over the proceeding 17-day ordeal, the British hostages – two of whom were just 17 years old – were subjected to a living nightmare in the rebels’ jungle base. This became an archetypal story of Africa’s heart of darkness. As the British military tried to negotiate, the rebels’ horrific excesses culminated in children’s heads being paraded on poles before the hostages. Finally, the British SAS and SBS were called in to mount a rescue operation. A combined force of some 75 SAS and SBS soldiers were sent in to assault a heavily defended rebel base occupied by 1,000 enemy. This is a story of how they flew into target in a lightning assault, and succeeded in their mission against all odds. The story is a modern day tale of hostages and heroes, an epic of soul-shattering confrontations.

Officially called Operation Barras, but known to the men on the ground as Operation Certain Death, it was a joint operation between the Paras, the SBS, the Navy and the RAF, but spearheaded by the SAS. Because of the traditional secrecy surrounding Special Forces operations this story has never before been told, but it is one the men themselves wanted telling. This book is that story in their own words. It is the single most daring Special Forces rescue mission since World War Two.

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Background

Eleven members of the British Army's Royal Irish Regiment led by Major Alan Marshall[2] and their Sierra Leone Army liaison officer, Lieutenant Mousa Bangura[4] were held hostage by an armed rebel group known as the West Side Boys led by Foday Kallay on August 25, 2000. Some controversy exists regarding the mission of the British troops; British sources initially maintained that the soldiers were returning to Freetown from a meeting with Jordanian United Nations forces when they were captured, however, the Nigerian UN commander, General Garba, claims that the British soldiers never met with the Jordanian troops. British authorities later admitted that their soldiers may have been captured while deep in rebel territory.[1]

On September 3,[5] five of the eleven British soldiers were released in exchange for a satellite phone and medical supplies. Further negotiations then broke down and Foday Kallay threatened to kill the remaining hostages. It was then that British Prime Minister Tony Blair authorized the mission.[2]


the operation
At 6:16 in the morning of September 10, three Boeing Chinooks and two or three Westland Lynx helicopters took off from the Freetown airport and headed for Rokel Creek, upon the banks of which was located the West Side Boys' camp. On the northern bank was the village of Geri Bana, where the remaining British soldiers were being kept. On the opposite bank were two more villages, Magbeni and Forodugu, also occupied by the rebels. The Land Rovers used by the hostaged soldiers had been taken to Magbeni.

The attack on the rebel camps commenced at around 6:30 as the helicopters came in and disgorged troops almost simultaneously on both northern and southern target locations. In Geri Bana, SAS observation teams, which had been inserted days before and had kept the rebels under surveillance ever since, began to engage them. The rescuers, SAS troopers, extracted the remaining six British soldiers and the Sierra Leonean lieutenant within twenty minutes. They were flown out to the RFA Sir Percivale moored in Freetown harbour at about 7:00 that morning. In Magbeni, the Paratroopers engaged the awakened rebels. A second wave soon brought the Paras to full strength as they continued the assault. This attack diverted attention from the rescue attempt on the opposite bank in Geri Bana. Most of the action was over by 8:00, although the last British troops pulled out at 14:00 in the afternoon, after conducting mopping-up operations that saw the capture of Foday Kallay and the recovery of the Land Rovers.



British and allied units involved
-130 paratroopers from the 1st Battalion Parachute Regiment
-40 members of the SAS
-Royal Irish Regiment
-RFA Sir Percivale
-HMS Argyll
-Three Boeing Chinook helicopters providing transport
-Three Westland Lynx helicopters providing armed escort and close air -support

Hostages
-Major Alan Marshall
-Captain Flaherty
-CSM Head
-Sergeant Smith
-Lieutenant Mousa Bangura
-Corporal Sampson
-Corporal Ryan
-Corporal Mackenzie
-Ranger Guant
-Ranger McVeigh
-Ranger Rowell
-Ranger MaGuire

Casualties
-25 rebels confirmed killed although far more are thought to have died
-18 rebels captured including Foday Kallay
-1 British SAS soldier killed in action; identified as Bradley Tinnion
-12 British soldiers wounded (1 severely, 11 minor)




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barras

i have seen some stuff of this mission on discovery/national geographic channel and on the internet.







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Please take a look at this map idea, since it happened in R/L and has been an memorial mission. (thats what i think),

gametype

Posted: 2007-11-23 13:13
by arjan
GB vs Insugents in the gamemode extraction
- GB forces touch the ground try to secure the areas of the 3 CP's
- GB forces breach the shed (where 6 extraction kits are laying) (main camp)
- few GB units grab the kits, load themselfses up in the chinook,
and move back to the airport.
- the remaining GB forces must clear the camps in a form of 3 CP
( if they cant complete the last task, the insurgents won the round)

- insurgents make sure the shed is defended (main camp)
- insurgents have some RP's hided in some bushes near the (main)camp

The camp with the hostages kits is the little (main)camp on the right side
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the only thing is that the WSB have a black body color.. maybe reskin insurgents to have them brown heads ?


GB has a ticket bleed the whole round long, the round starts with the amount of tickets that the GB realy have to rush ?? maybe

Posted: 2007-11-23 13:29
by Gaz
Eleven soldiers? There's 12 names listed on the hostage list. I served with one of them in Iraq, and his name's not on that list. So either the list is inaccurate, or the names have been 'changed' for personal security reasons.

No mention of the fact that if rebel forces had been able to make use of the .50cal on the back of the landy, the whole op would have went to rats**t.

Would be an extremely interesting jungle map though.

Posted: 2007-11-23 13:59
by arjan
eleven members of the British Army's Royal Irish Regiment
their was a guy Lieutenant Mousa Bangura that helped the UN or something, and he wasnt irish, he knew the WSB i thought thats wye he getted tortured ;)

Posted: 2007-11-23 14:03
by ReconAus
Nice idea man if the devs can get it to work i think it would be a GREAT map

ReconAus

Posted: 2007-11-23 21:55
by Masaq
ReconAus wrote:Nice idea man if the devs can get it to work i think it would be a GREAT map

ReconAus
Would be nice to see people in the Community Modding section take on something like this... shifting this thread to there.

Posted: 2007-11-23 22:17
by Desertfox
What do you mean use the .50 cal on the back of a landrover? Do you mean technical or did they take over a landrover ;o

Posted: 2007-11-24 00:57
by ReconAus
When they captured the patrol they took there weapons and vehicles, but when the SAS attacked the Landrovers where being held at another village

ReconAus

Posted: 2007-11-24 17:11
by arjan
wye is this thread moved ?
and where has it been moved ?
will the devs look at this ?
:) i hope it isnt move in a negative way

Posted: 2007-11-24 19:24
by SGT.JOKER
other than the fact it would require a rebel faction, it would make a very interesting/fun map

Posted: 2007-11-24 19:45
by General Dragosh
SGT.JOKER wrote:other than the fact it would require a rebel faction
Aside from that it would be a great map...

and to honor the dareing SAS's guys...

moving post

Posted: 2007-11-25 06:39
by ReconAus
arjan wrote:wye is this thread moved ?
and where has it been moved ?
will the devs look at this ?
:) i hope it isnt move in a negative way
Its been moved to the Community Modding forum

[/QUOTE] Would be nice to see people in the Community Modding section take on something like this... shifting this thread to there.

ReconAus

Posted: 2007-11-25 08:36
by arjan
i hope a good mapper will look at it.. (i think the map requires a good mapper, due to the size). but thanks for the explanation :)


and in this map i think snipers should be used too :) i think this map can be used good with a DMR and a sniper (the way its ment to be played)

? if this map can get to work ,can the marksman or UKSF kit get an ghilie suit too ?

Posted: 2007-11-25 09:04
by Onil
seems like a good idea, lets hope someone can do it.

Posted: 2007-11-26 13:40
by OkitaMakoto
Are you no longer gonna try to make it Arjan? :(

*sigh*

No comment...

*edit*

err.. you should really really try to get this started on your own... I thought you were gonna map it? All this research and youre not gonna?

Hope it takes of though, looks good.

Posted: 2007-11-26 13:45
by arjan
anyone?? :( , devs?

Posted: 2007-12-28 10:14
by arjan
Hello??
please keep this thread alive :(

Posted: 2007-12-28 11:59
by OkitaMakoto
arjan wrote:Hello??
please keep this thread alive :(
The only reason this thread is dead is because you talked about a map and made all these plans for it and you arent going to work on it on your own.

Mapping is very difficult. Im still nowhere NEAR decent at it. i dont know how Rhino and IronTaxi (et all) get it done. I go crazy.

But, the simple fact is, you cannot bring up a complex map design, say youll do it, and merely give up a few days down the road. Its a slap in the face to every mapper out there to simply ask them to do it for you and "keep it alive"

My advice? Work on it yourself. Get it moving. Get a following. Find help (when all other options are exhausted). Post progress and ask for suggestions along the process.

-Okita

Posted: 2007-12-28 12:11
by arjan
okay,, i gonna try it..
how long do you estimate it will take time ? :$

Posted: 2007-12-28 12:40
by [SAF]stal20048
a long time, the map itself wont have to be too big, but make sure the british have three spawn points. One deep in the jungle, which doesnt have any vehicles or anything like that, one up river, which has a few RHIBS, and one back at an airbase of some sort.