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Oh god, they give me such a headache and theres nothing you can do about them, turning down the volume doesn't help. It's so frustrating, I can't even continue playing if it's really bad, my ears start hurting. Wish there was better built in VOIP because too often it's either A)squadmates too quiet and you can't hear **** B)they're too loud and you get a headache.

u can change the transmit volume if its too loud. idk about the crackliness. maybe PR devs can come up with a better voip system..if possible

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It is possible to run the in-game VOIP independently of the game server, but I imagine very few server admins do this. No idea if it makes things better. I reckon it's more likely client-side.

I tend to find that running throgh the Audio/Video wizard in MSN Messenger sets up the sound system nicely for BF2 VOIP (and often fixes problems).

epoch wrote:It is possible to run the in-game VOIP independently of the game server, but I imagine very few server admins do this. No idea if it makes things better. I reckon it's more likely client-side.

I tend to find that running throgh the Audio/Video wizard in MSN Messenger sets up the sound system nicely for BF2 VOIP (and often fixes problems).

I tend to find that BF2 messes with my windows sound mixer settings, which results in me blowing out people's eardrums in Source games if I play them after playing PR.

It is possable to mute individual players, if somone is giving you a headache, explain why and inform them you've gotta mute them - the more times they get muted the more encouraged they will be to sort out their mic problem, alternativly insult them then boot them from the squad.

For those who dont know:- Bring up scoreboard, click on Manage, click on the mic icon next to a name - hey presto, muted.

Could this be a soundcard issue? The loud static sound used to happen to me when I used to play ghost recon and use TS. Only way to stop it was to change one of the sound settings in TS (you either used one or the other, can't remember what they were called).

Anyway, I also had a quiet mic problem in TS back then. In PR some people say my mic is really quiet and I should "boost mic gain". This option is ghosted out in my in game sound options. Thing is, i'm not using the same mic as I was years ago when I played GR, I have a headset now. But both work fine if I use a wave editor program to record my voice.

So cound it just be that certain soundcards just won't work properly (I'm using an audigy 2 nx and used to use a soundblaster live with GR). I already know that my card isn't officially supported, but I don't want to spend £50+ on a XiFi, especially when it might not even solve the problem.

Katash wrote:It is possable to mute individual players, if somone is giving you a headache, explain why and inform them you've gotta mute them - the more times they get muted the more encouraged they will be to sort out their mic problem, alternativly insult them then boot them from the squad.

well that is the disrespectful way of doing it. i mean, if someone mutes(basically saying STFU) me and later on insult and kicks me out of the squad, just because my mic is abit too loud, i would get pretty pissed off >: |

on the other hand, you could nicely tell the person what the problem is and ask(nicely) him to fix the problem. trust me it always works .

Not to mention people using headphones and speakers is different, mabye not so great hearing on speaker or too loud on headphones. If everyone else is having a problem, state via squad chat or voip to tell them that their mic has a problem. Insist they speak closer or further away from their mic. When its a 10 year old whining about everything, yeah tell him or her to shut up or be kicked, but otherwise a tech issue, as you can not hear yourself hear what you spoke :S

'S.P.C-[Reality wrote:-;575403']on the other hand, you could nicely tell the person what the problem is and ask(nicely) him to fix the problem. trust me it always works .

Seriously, it happens to often in online games. I'll talk for 5 minutes before someone will kindly tell me that they can't hear me and I realize I had my mic off. People just assume I'm broadcasting silence on purpose or something.

The BF2 VoIP is pretty crappy. I have a great mic for TS for the PR tourny, but I can't get it to play nice with BF2. It's flippin retarded.

'S.P.C-[Reality wrote:-;575403']
you could nicely tell the person what the problem is and ask(nicely) him to fix the problem.

That was intended:-

'Katash' wrote:if somone is giving you a headache, explain why and inform them you've gotta mute them

The original context of the reply is relating to people who, despite repeated requests to alter their mic's, do nothing about it.

Kicking someone from the squad who doesnt have VOIP or a correctly set-up mic IMHO is perfectly acceptable, as is kicking someone for not following orders, lone-wolfing etc... What is the point of someone taking up a space on a good squad if there are people out there that want to join and do have a correctly set up mic.

P.S Also if a squad is named UK VOIP, it is assumed they have a good understanding of English and an accent that is understandable. In my experience people will join squads just so they can get kits then they display zero teamwork.

Jaymz will probably give the best answer but at a guess there are 3 factors (and a couple of more I've probably missed) causing this.

1) Distortion caused by having your transmit level too high

2) Distortion caused by having your mic level too high

3) Talking into a low quality mic too close - shitty diaphragms can't hack the high - well not really very high in the great scheme of things - SPL* and thus the input sounds naff.

These are exaggerated by the low sampling rate that the VOIP bf2 probably uses, so instead of having crappy distorted signal, it's crappy distorted signal that sounds like it's been played through an AM radio from the 80's.

So to sort this out follow your signal path, i.e. your mouth, your, mic, your microphone gain (the one on your sound panel) and then your transmit level. So make sure your not talking, especially some of the more excitable players, right into your mic, then make sure you don't have your mic on full, especially if you have the +20 gain on, and then sort out your signal in BF2. If it's filling the bar up continuously you need to turn down your mic level on your sound panel, if it doesn't do anything turn it up and try turning on the +20 gain thing most panels have.

By the way, when Jaymz inevitably gets here, does it mean that you have too weaker signal as well as too stronger signal when your transmit icon turns from green to red? It seems to have done this when I've had my mic on too quiet.

Also are there any standalone programs that you can get (preferably free) that you can use as an EQ/compressor/noisegate/general effects unit for mics? Always get quite a boomy response and compression and noisegates are always good in these kinda situations, especially since the gate on TS isn't very good.

*Sound pressure level - physical volume, lots of us sound nerds (or people that want to sound like sound nerds after having half-done a couple of college courses and been in bands a few years) use the term SPL so it's clear your referring to physical volume instead of anything else.