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USMC maps variants

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:07
by TheIrishGimp
The sheer lack of USMC maps on this new vers is seriously getting ridiculous. This mod is becoming a british fantasy mod...

pretty much wat im saying is that many of us miss the old USMC maps (Al Basrah being the main one) My suggestion is to provide a USMC variant to some of the old USMC maps that have been taken over by the British faction (who isnt even in Iraq). One other thing is that it seems the Cobra attack helicopter (or any attack heli for that matter) is dead in this mod ( THE COBRA IS IN 1 MAP WHICH IS GULF OF OMAN WAC, its essentially been swept into the closet.)


Flame me all u want. tell me to just stop playing the mod... but name another Realism mod for BF2 that ACTUALLY has ppl in it

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:23
by Heskey
The British aren't in Iraq?

I didn't know that. Did you guys know that? I didn't know that!

...

PS. The Cobra is in Kashan too.

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:23
by SnipingCoward
its a shame because the m16 model really is beautyful! and the apache a great chopper!

i think we just need more maps? :P

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:31
by TheIrishGimp
Cobra is only on the 32 MAN MAP on Kashan.... wat server runs that?

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:35
by Heskey
I give up.

EDIT: Okay no I don't.

There are 2 Kashan maps; 32 and 64 - They are the same map, but one has the Cobra, the other has planes.

USMC maps off the top of my head:

Zatar
Sunset
Hamyong
Road to Kyojan'yomomma
Qwai
Kashan

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:37
by Teek
more USMC in 0.8 maps.

Posted: 2008-01-22 01:51
by Symplify
The U.S were taken out of Basra because the British were (and for a little longer are) IN BASRA IRL. This was brought up a while ago when some guy named U.S.ARMY flipped out at the beginning of .6 saying:

"OMFG BRITISH BLOW! BUT TEH AMERCANS BECK IN BUSRAH! I WANT TEH US ARMIES!"

But again, the British are there because they are there IRL.

I think more U.S maps are coming in .8 to balance the ratio out, but I think it's fairly even now, though. It's just that people (especially Americans) hate the British so much that it distorts their perspective sometimes.

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:11
by Heskey
It's not that they hate the British, Sym - It's just that they want every game to feature as the main guys :P

I remember when 2142 was announced and pretty much every american poster on the EA forums was like "WTFZ NO WAI AM I PLAYIN WIFOUT DA US!!!" despite having:

BF1942
BF:Vietnam
BF2

Standing before it, with the main team as the U.S.

Oh, and also the fact that the teasers of 2142 quite clearly showed America consumed by ice-age = /

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:11
by [T]Terranova7
Lets not start up on the nationalism people, I honestly hate these "My country is better than your country" arguments. The U.S will be featured in more maps in the next release (Some good ones too, like Muttrah V2, West Fallujah, Operation Barracuda). The amount of U.S and U.K maps currently is balanced, only thing is that the Brits seem to have the more popular maps currently.

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:28
by Hfett
hey why dont you guys try to learn how to use the bf2editor and make some Usmc maps for us? :mrgreen:
If they are good enough they will be added without doubts ;-)

We cant realy pull maps out of nowhere, they need to be made by someone

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:43
by gclark03
And they are really, really, really, really, really, really, REALLY time-consuming and aggravating, although they're worth the time. Give the mappers who created those mainstream maps like Kashan and Basrah a nice round of applause.

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:52
by BloodBane611
Kyojan'yomomma
That's fantastic. Can we just shorten it to "yomomma"?

There are plenty of USMC maps right now, and a USA faction planned for the future. Be patient, try actually looking for what you want. The top two (imo) maps in PR are Qwai and Jabal, and they both feature the USMC.

Posted: 2008-01-22 02:55
by Symplify
Alright, I just did a count of the maps that show up in creating local servers. My count shows that your argument that this is becoming a British mod doesn't really hold water.

I counted 10 USMC maps
...and 7 UK maps.

And the attack helos are used when it's realistic for them to be used. Cobra in Kashan and Gulf of Oman, the WAH-64 is used in Qinling, large maps where they ought to be.

Posted: 2008-01-22 07:33
by charliegrs
lets not forget people, there is a US army faction coming soon. that will most likely mean more maps. and the upcoming fallujah map, that will most certainly be USMC.

Posted: 2008-01-22 07:50
by markonymous
for some ppl having as many maps as other factions is not enough they want no no demand more maps in their faction so they can beat their chest and say they're the biggest nation.

Posted: 2008-01-22 08:15
by Pride
British currently have:
7 Gates
Al Basrah
Al Kufrah
Assault on Mestia
Bi Ming
Fools Road
Operation Ghost Train
The Battle for Qinling

The US Have:
Daqing
EJOD
Gulf of Oman
Hills of Hamgyong
Jabal
Kashan
Qwai
Road to Yomomma :lol:
Sunset ciity
Zatar

So you can't really complain, especially with fallujah, muttrah v2 and Barracuda all US maps

Posted: 2008-01-22 11:32
by Eddie Baker
Locked before it degenerates into another electronic ****-measuring contest. :roll:

Posted: 2008-01-22 11:49
by Rhino
Terranova wrote:Lets not start up on the nationalism people, I honestly hate these "My country is better than your country" arguments. The U.S will be featured in more maps in the next release (Some good ones too, like Muttrah V2, West Fallujah, Operation Barracuda). The amount of U.S and U.K maps currently is balanced, only thing is that the Brits seem to have the more popular maps currently.
good thing some one around here has a brain.

In v0.7 at the moment there is 18 maps:
1. 7gates [gb vs pla]
2. albasrah [gb vs me_ins]
3. al_kufrah_oilfield [gb vs mec]
4. assault_on_mestia [gb vs militia]
5. battel_for_qinling [gb vs pla]
6. bi_ming [gb vs pla]
7. daqing_oilfields [usmc vs pla]
8. ejod_desert_6 [usmc vs mec]
9. fools_road [gb vs militia]
10. gulf_of_oman [usmc vs mec]
11. hills_of_hamgyong [usmc vs pla]
12. jabal [usmc vs mec]
13. kashan_desert [usmc vs mec]
14. operation_ghost_train [gb vs pla]
15. qwai1 [usmc vs pla]
16. road_to_kyongan_ni [usmc vs pla]
17. sunset_city [usmc vs pla]
18. zatar_wetlands [usmc vs mec]

Teams:
8x gb
10x usmc
9x pla
6x mec
1x me_ins
2x militia

notice that there is in fact 2 more USMC maps that british maps in this mod at the moment. The biggest problem like Terra said, more of the brit maps are more popular than the USMC maps cos recently over the last few builds from v0.4 we have been mainly working on new brit maps to bring up the balance between USMC and GB maps. If you remember in v0.4 there was only like 4 or 5 brit maps, with OGT being the only map that was made from the begging with in mind the brits being on it, all the other maps where community maps etc that where switched over to be used as a temp brit map etc.

Now that we have a good balance of maps between USMC and GB we are now working more or less equally on both factions, with exsamples of Muttrah City v2, West Fallujah, Operation Barracuda all in the words for later releases which I'm sure will all become very popular maps.

Also for your infomation, the british are still in iraq, they are only providing overwatch duty at the moment thou. The PR "Storyline" as such is set in a few years in the future so that we can say the insurgants retook over the city with the brits pulling out soo early due to stupid politics and now the brits have been ordered back in to restore order again.

Next time do your homework before starting a topic.