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Just finished a couple of rounds in Al Basrah (great map, by the way), and I wanted to ask if there was any possibility of removing the ability of Civilian's to get into the Jihad vehicles (bomb truck, c4 car, etc. etc.)
If I'm not mistaken, when someone on the British team kills a civilian, whether they are in a vehicle or not, there is still a penalty incurred. I think that the whole Civilian system is brilliantly thought out and pretty effective. However, the fact that a Civilian can get into one of the vehicles that are intended to be used to kill someone on the British team kind of defeats the purpose.
Imagine.... you're in a British tank, and a civilian drives up to you in a C4 car, clearly intent on blowing you up.
If you shoot the car and blow up the civilian, you'll still get that minute-long respawn penalty (if im not mistaken).
Should you not shoot the civilian, you will most likely get blown to pieces.
I know that a minute respawn penalty is nothing compared to the 20 or 30 so minutes for the tanks to respawn, but I still think the idea in general is troublesome.
Perhaps make it so that Civilians can't operate the "jihad" vehicles, Im sure there is a way, as Civies can't use the trucks with the 50 cal.
~Corporal Cody

There surely is a way to prevent civilians from using the jihad vehicles, but there's no need to.

The reason is simple: you can kill civilians in vehicles (ladder and grappling hook work as well).

So just lock and load buddy

I think also for realistic/balancing purposes civvies shouldn't be able to use jihad vehicles anyway -- they are supposed to be ordinary civilian sympathizers of the insurgency, are they not? It would stand to reason that they are not of the same "devotion" as actual insurgents, and would be far less willing to sacrafice themselves in a bomb attack than an insurgent would.

I agree that the problem is partly solved by civies being open targets once they enter a vehicle but there is a loop hole:
Many times i have shot an insurgent out of a jihad car, then a civi has started running at the car, if this was an insurgent i could shoot him before he reaches the car but because he is a civi i cannot open fire untill he is in the vehicle which is a lot harder.
This is why i think civies shouldn't be unable to move Jihad cars or a least not detonate them.

Well lets but it this way.

Whenever the civilian is outside of a truck with a 2000 lbs bomb on the back he is unarmed and thus a non-target. Once he enters the vehicle he is has become armed. (Refer to the 2000 lbs bomb for his kit loadout.) and thus is has went from civilian to insurgent. Insurgent forces are simply armed civilians correct? Well they became insurgents, making them a hostile and a target.

That is why you can shoot civilians in a suicide truck or car.