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[Kit] Ch-ch-chaaanges!

Posted: 2008-02-04 13:10
by Jaymz
Crewman PDW

Having crewmen with full sized assault rifles was a little bit ridiculous. Getting a G3A3 out of a burning T90 would be a little bit too much hastle in RL :p . So we've issued them more feasible firearms.

PLA : QBZ95b w/ 2+1 mags (PLA SF now use full size QBZ95's with ironsights)

MEC : MP5A3 w/ 2+1 mags

USMC : M4 M68 w/ 2+1 mags (not an M4A1, comes with a single/burst trigger group)

GB : No suitable replacement at this time.

Heavy AT

Due to the delay systems used to portray setting up H-AT systems and acquiring targets, we have come to the conclusion that issuing them Assault Rifles will allow the kit better integration into infantry squads.

PLA : QBZ-95 ironsights w/ 2+1 mags

MEC : G3A3 ironsights w/ 2+1 mags

USMC : M16A4 ironsights w/ 2+1 mags

GB : L85A2 ironsights w/ 2+1 mags

Posted: 2008-02-04 13:37
by Spec
ha! Good stuff, nice. Love the changes.

Posted: 2008-02-04 13:48
by Maxfragg
now we need a L22 for the brits.

Posted: 2008-02-04 14:08
by mammikoura
looks great.

Posted: 2008-02-04 14:10
by hx.bjoffe
Cool. Smart guns for Crewmen, and HATs back in infanterysquads. I can't see why not?
Don't know about PLS specops tho...

Posted: 2008-02-04 14:13
by KingLorre
Sweet!!! perfect toughts there!


<3 devs!

Posted: 2008-02-04 14:41
by Ragni<RangersPL>
[R-DEV]Jaymz wrote:GB : No suitable replacement at this time.
How about suitable placeholder? Vanilish MP5? MP7?... double UZI?(joke :D )

Posted: 2008-02-04 15:22
by Polka
Perfect for the crewman kit, but M4 M68 ? Pics please

Posted: 2008-02-04 15:24
by ReaperMAC
Finally! :D Seemed kinda silly running to the heat of combat with just a pistol.

Posted: 2008-02-04 15:40
by G.Drew
nice!

Posted: 2008-02-04 15:48
by =Romagnolo=
First post \o/

I rent this post, send MP to me !

Posted: 2008-02-04 15:52
by =Romagnolo=
I made a little search and found the weapons that the enginiers are going to have, because not everyone knows the weapons by name

PLA : QBZ95b
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MEC : HK53A3
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USMC : M4 M68
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Posted: 2008-02-04 16:06
by Spike
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L22A2 carbine, as issued to Royal Armoured Corps tank crews in Iraq.

i guess this is the sort of weapon your looking for, for the Brits crewman kit.

Posted: 2008-02-04 16:17
by Mekstizzle
Can't you just give UK the MP7?

Heckler & Koch MP7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MoD Police use it. Not that I've ever heard of them (no offence if anyone here is part of the MoD Police :P )

Who's to say in a time of total conventional war such as the scenario in PR, that the MoD wouldn't issue these to all crewmen. Throw it in, I say

Posted: 2008-02-04 16:41
by Pride
The L22 that spike psoted would be the one given, if the DEVs made it. However, Jaymz says there is 'no suitable replacement' meaning 'there is no suitable replacement already in game'...at least that's what i think :p

Posted: 2008-02-04 16:54
by CheRiTTo
Good things for the crewmen but i dont like the idea to give Heavy At a rifle. I think it wont make the heavy at guy do what is supposed to do.

Posted: 2008-02-04 17:18
by MrD
Guys, the search for an animator goes on, to add new weapons into the games engine. Until then, the SA80 series carbine is going to wait, but you can at least view it on a table with MP5, Kalashnikov variant and a few other "toys"


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Posted: 2008-02-04 17:21
by $kelet0r
Mekstizzle wrote:Can't you just give UK the MP7?

Heckler & Koch MP7 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

MoD Police use it. Not that I've ever heard of them (no offence if anyone here is part of the MoD Police :P )

Who's to say in a time of total conventional war such as the scenario in PR, that the MoD wouldn't issue these to all crewmen. Throw it in, I say
The L85A2 is a far more plausible weapon than an arbitrarily chosen submachine gun for use in a confined space, in fact it is current used as such as the L22A1 is a relatively new weapon
However, I am EXTREMELY concerned by the MEC choice - I foresee regular infantry choosing it to benefit from low recoil rather than master the G3, completely undermining the gameplay.
The MEC crewmen instead should get a MR 444 with lots of 9x19mm Parabellummm ammo in the absence of a stubby G3KA4 or a 9x19mm Parabellum submachine gun such as the HK MP5 given the German theme in MEC firearms. ALternatively the Bizon would be a possible choice if the MR444 ammo is in fact Makarov 9x18mm Soviet - the pistol is manufactured for both calibers.

But giving the crewman an "easier" weapon than the G3 will be very bad for gameplay

Posted: 2008-02-04 17:42
by Bowskill
=Romagnolo= wrote:I made a little search and found the weapons that the enginiers are going to have, because not everyone knows the weapons by name

PLA : QBZ95b
http://www.wing21.rtaf.mi.th/wboard/3011254711275.jpg

MEC : HK53A3
http://www.looki.de/gfx/product/1/1612/ ... d4602d.jpg

USMC : M4 M68
http://tri.army.mil/LC/cs/csi/m4carb.jpg
Actually the M4 M68 is an M4 with an aimpoint, IE Vanilla but with burst instead of full auto. :)

Posted: 2008-02-04 17:58
by Maxfragg
M4 with M68 will just be the current specops weapon without fullauto