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Aiming, the nutiness!

Posted: 2008-02-12 20:53
by DeltaFart
Ok, this is more a plea for help.
WHen I use the rifles at range, everytime I try to center a target without strafing a bit, the crosshair, or the front post, always lands a bit to the left, the right, above it, or below it.
Now this happens to me with everything really. So I need some help with this.
My mouse is at the most sensitivity, and the sensitivity ingame is at the top. So what can I do? :cry:

Posted: 2008-02-12 20:58
by $kelet0r
It's meant to do that - it's a combination of 4 MOA and combat stress represented ingame by random deviation
solution - put more rounds down range until you hit something worth hitting

Posted: 2008-02-12 21:08
by .blend
Well, seems im the only one getting the secret ultra nervous recruit kit, coz everyone else headshots me, without seeing more than a few pixels of my head.

Posted: 2008-02-12 21:40
by $kelet0r
you have to hold perfectly still for 1.33 seconds to achieve minimum deviation as well .blend - aim, pause, 1 ... 2 ... 3, fire, aim, pause, fire, aim, pause, fire.
rapid fire is likely the cause of your deaths - reaiming only has a slight penalty compared to getting up and running around.
get used to the M16 first I guess - it's the most user friendly weapon ingame and a beast now on single fire.

Posted: 2008-02-12 23:35
by DeltaFart
Nah, this is defintly a game limitation
Say the ^ in the 3 lines below is a player is a player
This is where the crosshair lands when you use just your mouse to aim +
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It will just be to the left or right of the person, but never really center on the person. It'll just jump form one side of the person to teh other
(when I get a ss, I'll paint it up so its a bit easier to understand)

Posted: 2008-02-12 23:55
by $kelet0r
So what you are saying is that some small corrections are not possible because you are forced to make a minimum correction that is sometimes larger than that desired?
That sounds like a problem with your computer/mouse then mate - I've encountered this in other games, but not in BF2/PR.

Posted: 2008-02-13 00:06
by DeltaFart
what should I do? My mouse through my pc settings is at the highest it can go, and my settings ingame is as high as it acn go, so Im out of ideas

Posted: 2008-02-13 00:11
by $kelet0r
change the mouse?

Posted: 2008-02-13 01:19
by DeltaFart
i figured it out, I had it so high that a small movement would be a very large one. Just need to tweak the two settings to get it smooth as possible :-D

Posted: 2008-02-13 16:07
by cannibal23
they do need to fix the sniper rifles and marksman rifles for deviation. it essentually imposable to hit a target at any decent range now. i have tried this on a buddy standing still with waiting 5 secconds between shots and ajusting for distance and the hits arent even close. unless they are zeroed at a way diffrent range then stated on this forum (600M). i can still get kills with it but i have to be way closer then i should be (200M) at this distance they are dead on target and i very rarely miss.

Posted: 2008-02-13 17:55
by DeltaFart
Ok, I got a ss showing what I'm talking about with sensiivity
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High Sensitivity, your sights/crosshair will land on the black boxes(this is for if you got it high as you can get it) advantages are you can turn quickly, but the disadvatages are you cant return fire effectivly
The Green line is the area you can go with lower sensitivity. If you notice my line is kind of jagged, thats what happens with the high sensitivity. But ingame the lower sensitivity kicks in, and you can shoot anything inside the black boxes. Advantages are ease of acquiring targets. Downside is you can't turn as fast

Posted: 2008-02-22 23:13
by Rehvun
Not that this is super important, just a suggestion: I use a mouse with selectable DPI's. I have 400dpi and 1600dpi mapped to two different buttons on the mouse, so when I aim I'll have 400dpi (much lower sensitivity) and when I'm unzoomed, in a tank, flying, etc...I'll use the 1600dpi.

Anyways, interesting topic, this was one of the first things I noticed about PR.

Posted: 2008-02-25 22:17
by MirindoR
true cannibal, sniper rifles in 0.7 have some serious accuracy problem at 300m+

Posted: 2008-02-25 23:40
by DeltaFart
Rehvun wrote:I use a mouse with selectable DPI's.
Not to be an bum, but some of us do have a life :D joke
Seriously though, not all of us see the need for a mouse like that, I make do with my microsoft wireless mouse(though when the batteries get low it gets annoying)

Posted: 2008-02-27 11:00
by Sadist_Cain
Logitech G3 FTW!Image

1650Dpi for CQB and general running about, then when a long range shot is needed hack it down to 400Dpi :P

Posted: 2008-02-27 16:21
by jOHNNYdOUBE
Can I do that to my MX 1000 laser from logitech?

Posted: 2008-03-09 11:40
by ZZEZ
cannibal23 wrote:they do need to fix the sniper rifles and marksman rifles for deviation. it essentually imposable to hit a target at any decent range now. i have tried this on a buddy standing still with waiting 5 secconds between shots and ajusting for distance and the hits arent even close. unless they are zeroed at a way diffrent range then stated on this forum (600M). i can still get kills with it but i have to be way closer then i should be (200M) at this distance they are dead on target and i very rarely miss.
If your at low range[-300m] you should aim below your target to hit it, zeroed to 600m means that below 600m the bullet will hit above your center point.