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Clarification needed on AA lock tone

Posted: 2008-02-14 01:25
by Katash
Do aircraft get a warning tone when a missile is locked? I understood it to only alert when a missile is fired.

Was playing earlier on T&T Server and was flying Havoc against Cobra

I spotted cobra in distance and got lock on, he instantly turns 90 degrees to his left and sees me, I fire twice at him with definate lock and both missiles miss, I drop flares, he launches 2 x missiles and blows us out of the sky.

We swap pilots and exact same thing happens again.

We (2 of us) then go on foot with 2 x SA-7's to get this guy and find something strange.

As soon as either of us lock onto him he drops flares and I loose lock (I thought they got no warning untill missile was launched)

If a missile was launched with a good lock from one of us during the time he was recharging flares it would miss every time

If a missile was launched with a good lock and he drops flares as the missile was on it's way to him it would miss every time.

If we got lock with an empty tube and pressed fire, he would drop flares instantly - as if pressing fire triggered the drop.

We must have tried about 10 SA-7's and 4 x sidewinders and not one hit him

in the end we had to bring a Vodnik and rely on old fashioned lead to do the job (only managed to wound him then the round ended tho.)

Posted: 2008-02-14 02:09
by Rudd
I thought the same as you. Bug?

Posted: 2008-02-14 08:28
by Mora
Was it yesterday? Cuz if i am right you where at the ridge at the US mainbase with SA-7's.
every time i was heading to the mainbase i got locked and instantly dropped flares.

And its true about the lock tone with chopper vs chopper, when you locked him he hears a tone it doesn't matter if you fired or not. Also i avoid 4 AA missiles without flairs dropped :D

Posted: 2008-02-14 08:59
by CAS_117
Once you track = no lock

Locked = lock warning

Just an engine limitation sorry :(

Posted: 2008-02-14 15:32
by Alex6714
I have had no trouble taking out BH after BH and such with the Havok. Just fire the second you lock. I am in the proccess of seeing different ways of firing, if I can fire before and hit etc...

Posted: 2008-02-14 20:10
by Waaah_Wah
Does the missile explode when it gets close to the aircraft or does it actually have to hit it?

Posted: 2008-02-14 20:22
by Ragni<RangersPL>
Waaah_Wah wrote:Does the missile explode when it gets close to the aircraft or does it actually have to hit it?
IRL or PR?

Posted: 2008-02-14 20:36
by Tef
Rpg are supposed to explode after a certain time if it doesn't hit anything.

Posted: 2008-02-14 23:26
by CAS_117
Missile are proximity fuzed to make up for network lag.

*Edit: The missiles don't work well enough to justify the number of flares that aircraft carry, combined with the lock warning. I've made some more improvements to them to get a reasonable hit rate.

Posted: 2008-02-15 12:08
by CareBear
my flares never seem to work :( ever...

Posted: 2008-02-15 13:53
by Mora
Well they do work you just have a 00.1 sec to release them in time..

Posted: 2008-02-15 22:46
by GR34
HA-HA you got owned by a chopper.






Sadly its happend to me many a time :( The missles suck I always use guns

Posted: 2008-02-16 00:35
by Alex6714
I dodged quite a few AAVs today, getting the hang of that. :)

Posted: 2008-02-16 00:54
by Mora
When you make a sharp turn at a specific time the aa missiles will miss but thats very rare

Posted: 2008-02-17 20:58
by <1sk>Headshot
Good AA player = death for helicopters. Just the way it should be.

Posted: 2008-02-18 01:27
by Mora
Good attack-chopper pilot + good gunner = dead for anything except aav cuz we need to avoid them ;)

Posted: 2008-02-18 03:27
by MrD
As a result of reading this thread I went out with the handheld AA and a friendly pubber with an LMG for ammo and sat where a couple of BH's passed frequently. Heres the footage I acquired :)

YouTube - Blackhawks Down!!!!

Posted: 2008-02-18 14:54
by Alex6714
Mora wrote:Good attack-chopper pilot + good gunner = dead for anything except aav cuz we need to avoid them ;)
Even the AAVs if done well and with a bit of luck. :grin: