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Well, I'll first tell what I did:

I simply have Battlefield 2: Deluxe, which is just BF2 + SF.
Yesterday I downloaded and installed the Core and Maps I believe.
Nothing else before, I've used the mod once.
I usually have nothing running in the background or anything, except all necessities.
Plus, I also don't have that much technical problems with the game itself.


So, I ran in a couple of issues to start with.
Well, the first is probably not much of a bug, but it's just that it loads slow.
And I mean, even slower than originally, but I guess the maps are a lot bigger.

Then, one of the first other things, I guess it the following:
It was when I was just trying out the mod in a self-created local game with only me in it.
At one point I died while I believe holding down the button for the communications-rose/menu-thing.
And it somehow didn't go away anymore even when loading a new game.
So that menu would be in my face all the time and other menus would just open and close in the same place.
It only went away after restarting the game, which is a pain.

Then, I believe there were 1 or 2 other issues, which I can't remember.
Oh yeah, I found it weird that, when I would for example barely get hit, maybe only walk into something,
my character would keep whining about pain and such and one time even die.
I mean, really, with nothing happening, only get hit by environment or something when walking around.
This is either a bug, or if it's the meaning, it's just annoying.

But the worst thing, is probably only on my system or maybe just some other users.
When I want to join a game online with more players, it loads the game.
But once I reach the game, it just kinda gets stuck.
Well, I see the image and cursor standing still, but I do hear some sounds, not looping either.
I can't tab out, I can't call up like Taskmanager or anything.
While I do see Windows' cursor come through sometimes.
All I can do is either reset or turn off my computer.
I have tried servers with the name containing 'V7', '0.7b' and '0.7'.


Sorry if this is a lot to read, but I just thought I'd let this know.

Salute
- Damage Inc.

First off -

After you installed BF2+SF, but BEFORE you installed PR, did you download and install the 1.41 patch for Battlefield 2?

You *must* have Battlefield 2 patched to the very latest version installed.

Patch available from the main EA site and here: Patches and Fixes: Battlefield 2 v1.41 Patch - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com

If you haven't, uninstall Project Reality, then uninstall BF2.

Reinstall BF2, then patch to 1.41, then install PR 0.7.

'[R-MOD wrote:Masaq;610921']First off -

After you installed BF2+SF, but BEFORE you installed PR, did you download and install the 1.41 patch for Battlefield 2?

You *must* have Battlefield 2 patched to the very latest version installed.

Patch available from the main EA site and here: Patches and Fixes: Battlefield 2 v1.41 Patch - Demo Movie Patch Download Section - GamersHell.com

If you haven't, uninstall Project Reality, then uninstall BF2.

Reinstall BF2, then patch to 1.41, then install PR 0.7.

Yes, it was already a fully up-to-date BF2, since I only installed PR yesterday.
So it's like from most basic to mod:
BF2+SF, whatever patches needed to play BF2 and finally PR, the last version only.

Well as a first step I'd say the same still applies; first step - clean out your BF2 install entirely, re-install from the DVD and then apply the BF2 1.41 FULL patch, then install PR.

Then create a new player profile and see what happens.

The "player moaning and then dying" when you take damage is exactly how it should be - taking a bad fall down a mountain *should* cause you to bleed out and die.

See how the other stuff is after a clean re-install.

[R-MOD]Masaq wrote:Well as a first step I'd say the same still applies; first step - clean out your BF2 install entirely, re-install from the DVD and then apply the BF2 1.41 FULL patch, then install PR.

Then create a new player profile and see what happens.

The "player moaning and then dying" when you take damage is exactly how it should be - taking a bad fall down a mountain *should* cause you to bleed out and die.

See how the other stuff is after a clean re-install.

Well, sorry but I'm not going through the hassle of reinstalling the game completely, setting everything up again, especially since I have like 5 CD-ROMS, sadly, to get this huge mod working.

And I doubt it would help, cause I couldn't even get BF2142's last patch working by reinstalling EVERYTHING.

If there is no simple solution, well that sux.
Because I have a clean working computer, the only games that mess up most are Battlefield's.


But what I did was just walking around by my own, not even running.
And it's like the air slapped me and I bled to death yeah.
Couldn't I heal myself? I thought that little package was to help yourself?
Or did I get that wrong...

Are you using Vista?

jOHNNYdOUBE wrote:Are you using Vista?

Lol, no way. XD
WinXProSP2, auto-updated, will probably use SP3 until like 2014.

Could you post what kind of computer you're using?

Also, you may have had a bad Download?

Medics can heal themselves by looking directly up/down and clicking with the medpack
Otherwise, use the field dressings (works similar to vBF2's medpack)

Try lowering your settings, and yes PR DOES load a LOT longer, also it will take more from your machine, if you get 60fps in vanilla BF2 (with no mods) your fps will fall dramatically if you have settings high.

When joining game it takes a bit time to load, even when youre ingame already, its drawing all sorts of things so wait, of course, if you wait 5mins or so and still nothing happening then its troublesome and something is wrong.

As for the pain yelling thing, it means youre bleeding, find a medic, so if you run around like headless chiken tou might hurt yourself.

When the menu thing stays just take the menu out again and pressing the middle button.(Q & T are differend menus btw so test them both, its prolly the kit request menu staying up)

Oh and before you go playing PR, READ THE MANUAL! serously or else you get basshed to tears, trust me.

But damn, somehow this post gave me a smile.

Dr2B Rudd wrote:Could you post what kind of computer you're using?

Also, you may have had a bad Download?

Medics can heal themselves by looking directly up/down and clicking with the medpack
Otherwise, use the field dressings (works similar to vBF2's medpack)

I don't know if I had a bad download, I just left it download without anything else on.
So if it's gone bad, they should fix it on their servers.

But that's the pack I mean, the field dressing thing.
Well, I held it, threw it on the floor, walked over it, "entered" it. XD
But short after that I just died...


And my computer... well, it's a home-built, you need to know the hardware exactly?...

Raic wrote:Try lowering your settings, and yes PR DOES load a LOT longer, also it will take more from your machine, if you get 60fps in vanilla BF2 (with no mods) your fps will fall dramatically if you have settings high.

When joining game it takes a bit time to load, even when youre ingame already, its drawing all sorts of things so wait, of course, if you wait 5mins or so and still nothing happening then its troublesome and something is wrong.

As for the pain yelling thing, it means youre bleeding, find a medic, so if you run around like headless chiken tou might hurt yourself.

When the menu thing stays just take the menu out again and pressing the middle button.(Q & T are differend menus btw so test them both, its prolly the kit request menu staying up)

Oh and before you go playing PR, READ THE MANUAL! serously or else you get basshed to tears, trust me.

But damn, somehow this post gave me a smile.

Well, regular BF2 runs pretty bad at basically Medium plus some Low settings.
I mean, the frames vary from 20 to 30 to 40 to 50, occasionally higher.
And yeah, I did notice the framerate become even worse at some places.
The way you really notice it, looking all "slow", which is basically doesn't do in BF2, but also not with most of PR.
It always suffered more from stutters than low framerates in BF2.

But no, it didn't do anything even after minutes.
I tried like 4 times, ended up restarting as many times too.

But for the time I was messing around in a self-created local game.
I just got hurt out of nothing seriously, I was begin careful since I knew this was more realistic that way.

And the menu didn't go away, wherever I clicked in whatever menu I brought up.
It just got stuck there thinking I was holding the menu-button down since the last death.
By the way, I believe when clicking right on the spotted-button, you can't move to another button again.
Except when you close and open the menu again, which is annoying if you accidentally click right.

Yeah, I found the Manual, but I thought I'd join the training as a more "realistic" approach.
Like getting instructions in the battlefield and such...
But of course, all the tools I'd be using come with a manual.

Oh no, it was sent twice.
Lol, no offence, but these forums are slow.

So this post can be removed if needed, or can I delete this myself?...

With your apparent attitude to getting the game sorted properly on your computer,and the following quote.

Yeah, I found the Manual, but I thought I'd join the training as a more "realistic" approach.
Like getting instructions in the battlefield and such...

I've got to tell you that you'll absolutely hate this game mate.It's complicated and requires teamwork along with a basic knowledge of the manual.If you go in without certain basic knowledge then you will bleed out and die.Read the manual and learn how to stay alive.

If though you feel you really must try this out,and you'd like help,then post up the full specs of your computer (not just the bits you are proud of) and we'll go from there.If your box struggles with BF2 vanilla then PR will kill it dead.

And if you can't be bothered to follow the excellent installation advice provided by [R-MOD]Masaq then the game won't work even on a decent machine.

It took me eight downloads, and four installations, and a reformat to get it running properly.

And,oh yeah.The sniper rifles are rubbish at the moment.

Jagger wrote:With your apparent attitude to getting the game sorted properly on your computer,and the following quote.I've got to tell you that you'll absolutely hate this game mate.It's complicated and requires teamwork along with a basic knowledge of the manual.If you go in without certain basic knowledge then you will bleed out and die.Read the manual and learn how to stay alive.

If though you feel you really must try this out,and you'd like help,then post up the full specs of your computer (not just the bits you are proud of) and we'll go from there.If your box struggles with BF2 vanilla then PR will kill it dead.

And if you can't be bothered to follow the excellent installation advice provided by [R-MOD]Masaq then the game won't work even on a decent machine.

It took me eight downloads, and four installations, and a reformat to get it running properly.

And,oh yeah.The sniper rifles are rubbish at the moment.

Well, first off, don't think I'm some run&gun game lover or whatever.
But I have the feeling there are just SOME annoying things about this mod.
Only I don't really like BF2 that much, so I'll have to try something.
And my attitude may seem lazy or whatever,
but I'm just pretty annoyed I can't get or rather KEEP much of EA's Battlefield running.
Like BF2142's last patch broke the game, I can not play it any more unlike any other patch before.
It's especially messed up since I put a lot of time and care into my computer.
So it's not like it's worth it or I'm getting anything back for it...

I might try a reinstall, but I can't afford to wipe my computer.
There are too many games and programs, settings for those, personal files, name it.
And there might be a separate gaming-computer in the next months if money allows.


Because my system is the following:

The parts I am proud of: ... 8\
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro-G
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 HT - 3GHz
GPU: ASUS GeForce 6800XT (128MB/AGP) very, very sad...
However pipelines unlocked and overclocked for a boost.
RAM: PC3200 DDR SDRAM - 1.5GB > Dual Channel
APU: Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2

Hm, what else... Canon Printer, very important... XD
For the rest it's constantly defragmented and cleaned, cooled properly, etc.
Still feel like I'm forgetting something.


And by the way, BF2's original Sniping is already rubbish.
Joint Operations "PWNS" in that area, too bad about the kill/death-cam.

I have a fine system:

Manufacturer: INTEL_
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6420 @ 2.13GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.1GHz
Memory: 3326MB RAM
Hard Drive: 320 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
Monitor: SyncMaster 2032BW/2032GW,SyncMaster Magic CX2032GW(Digital)
Sound Card: (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
Speakers/Headphones: Sennheiser (Really good quality)
Keyboard: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse Surface: Max 2000 dpi 4 buttions 1 3x fire bution
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.071023-1545)

And even i suffer from fps drops. I think its because of my monitor i run bf2 at max resolution and everything at high except texture at medium. sometimes at battle for qinling it drops to 15.. and on other maps its usually at 60 till 100.

Damage Inc. wrote:So, I ran in a couple of issues to start with.
Well, the first is probably not much of a bug, but it's just that it loads slow.
And I mean, even slower than originally, but I guess the maps are a lot bigger.

More stuff in the maps, so it's bound to load slower than vanilla[quoteThen, one of the first other things, I guess it the following:
It was when I was just trying out the mod in a self-created local game with only me in it.
At one point I died while I believe holding down the button for the communications-rose/menu-thing.
And it somehow didn't go away anymore even when loading a new game.
So that menu would be in my face all the time and other menus would just open and close in the same place.
It only went away after restarting the game, which is a pain.[/quote]Try hitting T or Q again.

Then, I believe there were 1 or 2 other issues, which I can't remember.
Oh yeah, I found it weird that, when I would for example barely get hit, maybe only walk into something,
my character would keep whining about pain and such and one time even die.
I mean, really, with nothing happening, only get hit by environment or something when walking around.
This is either a bug, or if it's the meaning, it's just annoying.

Yeah... that's bleeding. If you get badly hurt, you'll start bleeding and keep taking damage until you get healed or die. Falling down hills will often cause enough damage for bleeding to kick in. And why not? Running around fighting with a broken leg is gonna be pretty tricky.

But the worst thing, is probably only on my system or maybe just some other users.
When I want to join a game online with more players, it loads the game.
But once I reach the game, it just kinda gets stuck.
Well, I see the image and cursor standing still, but I do hear some sounds, not looping either.
I can't tab out, I can't call up like Taskmanager or anything.
While I do see Windows' cursor come through sometimes.
All I can do is either reset or turn off my computer.
I have tried servers with the name containing 'V7', '0.7b' and '0.7'.

I often have that happen for a few seconds when I first join a server, but I've never heard of it completely freezing... Does it happen for you all the time? Does it ever happen with vanilla or any other mods?

You shouldn't have any problems running PR on that computer. It's a bit more resource heavy than vanilla, so for good performance you may need to turn settings down a bit from what you'd normally use.

It "only" happened every time I tried to play a game with other players online.
I don't have much trouble getting into a game in plain BF2.

In PR it just freezes, I see the cursor in the middle of the screen standing still sometimes too, and really the arrow-one.
Then also, I still hear the sound of the game, just continuing and not looping.
And I also the the Windows-cursor in certain areas of the screen coming through when I move the mouse.
But I can not get out of the game in any way, it just visually froze somehow.

I bet it's my crappy videocard, I'm sure it's broken and messing up games.
If I had PCIe I would've had another one for months already.
There are better AGP-ones, but they're quite expensive here, not worth the small performance-gain.

Damage Inc. wrote: GPU: ASUS GeForce 6800XT (128MB/AGP) very, very sad...
However pipelines unlocked and overclocked for a boost.

Try lowering oveclocks, it can cause problems.

Raic wrote:Try lowering oveclocks, it can cause problems.

It is, but then it would make all games less smooth, sadly...
Do you think there is any AGP-card that isn't too expensive though which would make things better without overclocking?

Cause it's weird, I tried the X1950XT in AGP and it didn't help much.

I have a 7800GS AGP and it's ok.Only on medium-low settings though.And it's overclocked a bit.

Try lowering oveclocks, it can cause problems.

Honest.Just lower the clocks a bit.No good clocking if it just keeps locking.

Your memory ain't running in dual channel.Not with 1.5 gig it ain't any way.You need matched pairs in the correct slots to get dual channel working.

I might try a reinstall, but I can't afford to wipe my computer.
There are too many games and programs, settings for those, personal files, name it.
And there might be a separate gaming-computer in the next months if money allows.

This is number two suspect.A clogged up computer that's had a few installs/uninstalls performed on it and has a messy registry is what I had before a reformat.The game ran like a half broken clockwork toy.Bite the bullet and reinstall.

You can also check how many processes are running when you're trying to play.I have no more than 25 running and none of them influence the gameplay.The ones that do get killed before playing.