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Scopes on jeeps

Posted: 2008-02-26 13:30
by Chubben
Well not a ground breaking suggestion but still, I feel, an important part to help the infantry squad keep up superior firepower when moving in.

As it is right now the 50cal on jeeps can not be utilized in a sensible manor where you pull back the jeep so you are not so vulnerable to PRG's and incoming small arms fire.

Just to show what i am talking about:

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YouTube - Ross Kemp in Afghanistan 4 4/5

I have no idea if it is possible to implement but you can toggle to ironsight on them so i guess you can.

As for the magnification i would say 2x or 4x would be the way to go, 4x might be a bit to over powered.

Posted: 2008-02-26 13:43
by RCMoonPie
That second pic is a scope mounted on a Mk19.....very rare.

Posted: 2008-02-26 14:42
by $kelet0r
Not a Mk19, but a HK GMG I think
But yes they are currently very rare in British service although that is beginning to change
As to the OP, a SUSAT on the 50 Cal would be nice ... but probably won't happen

Posted: 2008-02-26 15:02
by Pluizert
Scope okay! But then we really need a time-penalty for seatswitching.

Posted: 2008-02-26 15:48
by Spaz
Pluizert wrote:Scope okay! But then we really need a time-penalty for seatswitching.
I don't think so.

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:01
by Pluizert
Well, its way too vanilla otherwise. In that second you switch seat, you would only be able to take off your seatbelt...

You think that is realism? I dont think so.

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:17
by $kelet0r
Spaz wrote:I don't think so.
You don't? Devs have confirmed this will be addressed in a future patch

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:18
by Masaq
Actually, that makes a great deal of sense really. Would help make the lightweight vehicles more useful as long-range support, instead of the pop-up shooting gallery targets they currently are.

I've actually heard this in-game via VOIP:

"Two Vodniks coming in! Bet I can hit the gunner on the left before you get the one on the right!"

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:20
by markonymous
Pluizert wrote:Scope okay! But then we really need a time-penalty for seatswitching.
not a good idea i mean the timepenalty in the tanks are because it would take you atleast 30 sec to get from one place to another and get set in a tank but in for eg a HMMWV you can climb to the gunner position in far less time. and ofcourse to stop single tanking but i dont see single caring as a problem.

I am all for scopes on the .50 cals

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:31
by Masaq
markonymous wrote:not a good idea i mean the timepenalty in the tanks are because it would take you atleast 30 sec to get from one place to another and get set in a tank but in for eg a HMMWV you can climb to the gunner position in far less time. and ofcourse to stop single tanking but i dont see single caring as a problem.

I am all for scopes on the .50 cals

Let's do a simple test of this.

-Go find a friend or family member with a car with a sunroof.
-Sit inside one of the front seats, wearing some very bulky clothes.
-(Optionally) Put your seatbelt on.
-Open the sunroof.
-See how quickly you can get out of your seat and stand up with your torso through the roof, whilst the car is stationary.


Point is not that it's a massive problem, but it is very frustrating to have a vodnik or hummvv charge into a defended position and have the driver immediately jump into the #2 position and hose people down, or to approach a guy hiding behind a jeep only to have him leap inside it and instantly jump into the #2 spot and mow you down.

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:34
by Pluizert
$kelet0r wrote:You don't? Devs have confirmed this will be addressed in a future patch
Who said 30 secs? More 5-10 seconds imo.

Edit: Masaq, you forgot to say dont try this at home! ;)

Posted: 2008-02-26 16:39
by Arnoldio_SLO
markonymous wrote:not a good idea i mean the timepenalty in the tanks are because it would take you atleast 30 sec to get from one place to another and get set in a tank but in for eg a HMMWV you can climb to the gunner position in far less time. and ofcourse to stop single tanking but i dont see single caring as a problem.

I am all for scopes on the .50 cals
meh...for getting from drivers place to turret seat...it would take you 10-15 secs..depending on situation and how familiar you are with the tank (yes i've been in tanks)

and driver to 50.cal switching is not even possible in vodnik or nanjing (or watever that chinese van is), because you have to exit the cockpit and climb on the rear..

Posted: 2008-02-26 17:05
by l|Bubba|l
Pluizert wrote:Who said 30 secs? More 5-10 seconds imo.

Edit: Masaq, you forgot to say dont try this at home! ;)
I say 3 seconds.

Posted: 2008-02-26 17:13
by Pluizert
Driving alone without music is boring anyway...

Posted: 2008-02-26 17:17
by Tef
If you put seat switching penalties in you should do that after they adress the sliding around on cliffs.

A scope on the jeep mgs would be nice, it's not that hard to fire from tracers but it's a little bit annoying.

Posted: 2008-02-26 22:52
by Eddie Baker
RCMoonPie wrote:That second pic is a scope mounted on a Mk19.....very rare.
Not a Mk-19, it's an L134A1, the UK designation for the H&K Grenade Machine-Gun (GMG). Fires the same high velocity 40mm ammunition, though.

Posted: 2008-02-26 23:27
by BloodBane611
If you put seat switching penalties in you should do that after they adress the sliding around on cliffs.
You want to fix the physics engine? There's plenty of complaining about this, but I have yet to see anyone start coding :roll: There are ways not to slide on cliffs. #1 is DON'T PARK THERE


I know the UK and Canadian militaries generally equip their MGs with optics, but I don't believe the US does. Anyone want to set me straight on that?

Posted: 2008-02-26 23:48
by RCMoonPie
[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:Not a Mk-19, it's an L134A1, the UK designation for the H&K Grenade Machine-Gun (GMG). Fires the same high velocity 40mm ammunition, though.
Ive already been corrected
....thanks.

Posted: 2008-02-27 00:16
by Eddie Baker
RCMoonPie wrote:Ive already been corrected
....thanks.
Sorry 'bout that. :)