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changes needed for air support and aircraft in general: The first change that is needed is attack jets need more than 2 ****ing bombs. They should get at least 3 and maybe 4 bombs.

2: the Mig-29 and the F-16 need to be equipped with at least 2 laser guided bombs. The Mig29 and the F16 are designed to be fighter/bombers, not purely air superiority fighters

3: Somehow find a way so that the area where a squad leader or special forces operator lases a target shows up on the fighter pilot's map and HUD like attack markers show up on everyone's HUD

changes regarding Al-Basra: Put 2 attack helicopters in there, and 2 fighter/bombers with 4 LGBs each. there really are times when brits just need to drop a laser guided bomb on insurgents, and it would be more realisitic as air support is often used in Iraq

first off, 2 attack heli and 2 planes on basrah would just rape so bad no one would play. the apache 30mm can take out all of village in less then 1min and that is just one apache, with 2 apaches and 2 fighters i think they alone would clear the whole map of caches in less then 10min.

also anyplane in pr is way to fast for a 2x2km map.

map too small? you do remember 0.5 right?

from what people have told me the jets were slower or the same speed as bf2v, now a fighter goes about 1900 and a a10 around 1200.

You will surely have civilian casualties.

baptist_christian wrote:changes regarding Al-Basra: Put 2 attack helicopters in there, and 2 fighter/bombers with 4 LGBs each. there really are times when brits just need to drop a laser guided bomb on insurgents, and it would be more realisitic as air support is often used in Iraq

Heck no! What would be the point of insurgency when you can just bomb the city till the caches are gone??!?

ofcause, all armys dorp bombs on civilians, come on, it should be a fair match and no bomb em to the ground.
and, the fact that the F-16 can be used for light bombruns and ground support, does not mean, that it usualy flys fully loaded with bombs and sidewinders.
If the F-16 is intended to go into dogfight, it will just have some (different) aa rockets and nothing more (exept perhaps an additional fueltank under each wing)

and, do the brits use F-16s?

but hey, your name makes me believe.
believe that you want gods armys to win over the unbelievers, and not a fair game

Holy *bleep man, there's a little something called balance. The combat aircraft aren't there for you to mow down everything without skill, teamwork or consideration for your team. No wonder why you were asking those aircraft questions in that thread you made.

2. since they ARE fighter bomber aircraft they need to maintain manuerverability, often times in real wars if a fighter bomber comes upon enemy aircraft it will jettison its bomb load so that it can actually manuever and dogfight. adding more bombs doesnt make any sense.

3. i agree with this one i think..

4? yes version .5 had a-10s however the planes were slower in that version. you would be in the death zone in 2 seconds now if planes were in basrah its just too small. and yes i do agree about putting ONE not 2 attack choppers in basrah because in my opinion it wouldnt really be the uber rapage everyone thinks its gonna be, especially when alot of caches are inside buildings, however im confident this will never happen

baptist_christian wrote:map too small? you do remember 0.5 right?

Does it mean that human civilazation should take a step back to medieval? You are not playing PR 0.5, this is PR 0.7.
This mod is still evolving AFAIK, good things stay, bad things go

Maxfragg wrote:
and, do the brits use F-16s?

IRL when the brits call in fast air often the USAF will respond with such aircraft

And yes the military does bomb military targets in civilian areas, but its not like they carpet bomb whole cities searching for caches,

For one thing, ground attack aircraft are very rarely used in situations as such as the Basrah map. Unless in real life policies have been changed and it is now totally cool to lay waste to entire urban populaion centres full of civilians. Or at least they aren't used in large numbers (and 2 of them on that map equals large numbers)

Secondly aircraft have changed since .5, they are now much much faster (I could hit A10's with an RPG in Basrah .5!) and so the map is now too small. There is also the fact that it makes the game too easy for the Brits. INS don't get AA guns, they have less SA-7's and as you already know, planes are much faster with more gubbins to shoot. Cache destroying would become stupidly easy even with just one attack helicopter.

However even the Brits wouldn't find it that good. Remember .5? Was there a good infantry game available to US footsoldiers? No because they constituted a minority as stupid amounts of people would sit at the airport waiting for their fancy toys to spawn. 2 attack heli's, 2 planes along with the IFV's and Challenger would render Brit infantry useless and unused and as a result the Insurgents entire gameplan would just be to hide somewhere until all caches are destroyed.

I wonder if the thread starter has ever fought on the insurgent side. Maybe another idea. Add the planes and choppers from the opening post, when thread starter enters an Al Basrah server he will be immediately switched to insurgents and cannot siwtch to Brits