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Well today I had a pretty good first run in an F-16 (13 kills in 5 minutes) but unfortunatly I got shot down when I flew over South village in kashan.

Now I was wondering if anyone knows any good evasive menuvers because I haven't ever trained for dodging missiles.

Well, once you are locked you have few options. The best option is flares. Once you get the lock signal dispense 5-10 flares, usually that does that trick, but in certain occasions where the AA gunner is experienced you must either: run, or engage evasive manuvers. My personal favorite is to roll while dispensig flares. This creates a ring around you wiht flares which can distract an AA gun for 10 seconds or so. My other favorite is to fly level, dispense flares and dive down at a 15 degree angle. This makes you in the line of flares which confuses the AA gun. Obviously these arent the only techniques but they do work, and as you gain experience you will learn the different tricks to evade missile lock.

Well, I haven't played PR - yet... But I should say that try and climb our of reach of the lock and deploy flares at the same time, also try tight turns and looping to shake missile's off you and then hightail it out of the area.

Thats all I can give you know, when I get the corrupt file problem sorted I'll give you some more help.

Cheers

Xavo

Looping is rather slow in PR - maybe 2/3 as fast as in real life - and I think there's a chance that a ground-to-air AA missile could hit/graze the cockpit and severely injure the pilot.

Don't take my word for it - looping is a good strategy in theory, but we would have to test the details before recommending it. It sure is slower than just rolling and gaining altitude.

One other thing: beyond a certain altitude, ground-to-air AA is useless. Gain altitude, roll, and pop flares if it's on the ground. If it's in the air, do the same, then come back down and fly over a place where you know there's friendly AA, all without giving the enemy a tantalizing shot. Tough, I know, but it gives your teammates something to shoot at and gives you a certain amount of safety.

the best way to learn this maneuvers is trying to shoot jets down.

besides, the engine behind it is still the same as for vbf2..

Fly 1 feet high

ly very high when going for a target... dive down... do a very large loop but slightly to the left or right.

or you can do a loop the wrong way...for example if your high enough instead of pulling back on the jostick push forward.

In a jet, dive with your flares to try to lose the lock, IF you get a sustained lock and suspect that missiles have been fired then swing a descending hard turn, which can cause the missile to misjudge your range/speed/bearing and miss.

I succesfully dodged a ground to air missile today on Kashan while in a Cobra by putting the nose down and turning sharply, actually saw the thing whizz over the canopy!

missiles coming right in front of you are nearly impossible to dodge. i rarely use flares when its a SAM being fired at me as it just makes me a easier to spot target for all others. Against jets its a diffrent story and flares should be saved for this purpose. SAMs are very very easy to dodge whereas planes are probably gonna take you out.

For helos: get about 450-550 meters in the air. Get nice and comfortable, coordinate with your gunner so he can hit all the ground targets he wants. When you hear that lock, drop flares and (i can't remember correctly right now) do a back flip maneuver that gets you going down very fast, and hightail it out of there. works 2/3 of time for me and i usually stay up for a majority of the round. Flying low doesn't work cause you're perfect target for tanks.

For jets: drop flares every second or two while in hostile territory. You can do this for 30 seconds to a minute. Once you've run out of flares, move into friendly territory and hide. Rinse and repeat.

I remember reading in a Falcon 4.0 SAM evasion tutorial that one thing that works sometimes is you set a course down towards the earth so that the missile will lead your course with one that will have it crash into the earth before you do. Not sure if it works in BF2 but its something to consider.

PFunk wrote:I remember reading in a Falcon 4.0 SAM evasion tutorial that one thing that works sometimes is you set a course down towards the earth so that the missile will lead your course with one that will have it crash into the earth before you do. Not sure if it works in BF2 but its something to consider.

Nah missiles here are pure pursuit. They don't lead you at all. Just put em on your 39, max G away from them, and spoof them. F-16 and EFT have a good roll so you can seat-of-the-pants-holy-hell-id-better-stop-watching-lost-while-waiting-for-the-mig-to-respawn-cause-i-could-have-been -finding-an-alternative-fuel-source-in-the-time-ive-been-playing-this twitch dodge them pretty good. It makes life a lot easier if you know where the stupid SAM is as well.

PFunk wrote:I remember reading in a Falcon 4.0 SAM evasion tutorial that one thing that works sometimes is you set a course down towards the earth so that the missile will lead your course with one that will have it crash into the earth before you do. Not sure if it works in BF2 but its something to consider.

is there any reason to assume that the bf2-enginge simulates anything real good?

No.

remember to not get close to your own flares, since the missiles are proximity detonated now, they can still hurt you, even if they miss.

Dont just use one manuever, but always use a combination. A split S is easy to folow, but when you make a loop, then a split S, an upside down immhelman and a couple of more fancy manuevers, your very difficuilt to folow.

I put my nose up and spin, that usely does it, drop flares wile at it