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I, being a sniper (Dont hate me yet...) Find the flares completly useless. There is only one scenario where I find that I can use them effectivly: 1) Watching an area (Flag) where you've put the Flares there early. Probability of you being able to do this in a hostile/Soon to be hostile environment and get away safely (AND your teammates dont go and activate them) is... well... I havn't seen it done.

As a sniper, I'd like to say "I've got my *** covered" But I dont. They can walk behind me (say in a building) and I wouldn't even know it.

So here's a suggestion: APMs. May that be Claymores or... whatever the heck else exists. You wont even have to change anything, just instead of the flares, make them trip wire grenades! (Ohh ooh ooh, Make them go under the ground and bounce up when triggered! =D) Although, I like flares... so maybe dont replace them..
(Sniper kit only)

But please, if you can, get those APM's up... for the love (Lol.. yeah right) of snipers.
Consider it =(

~Sirsolo

Anti-Personnel mines are against the rules of war. Trip-activated weapons are also against the rules of war.

Your best bet is a buddy to watch your back. Keep in mind that the flares in the marksman kit does not mean you can go wtfpwn sniper off somewhere. The best use of flares are as one small part of a larger trap. Place them in one area, behind an object blocking your LOS, with another guy on C4. When it's tripped, blow the C4.

Also, I had originally suggested that the Militia or insurgent faction get AP equipment, in particular trip-traps made from grenades, or in the militias case, actual AP mines.

I was under the impression that anti personnel mines still were in use, but no no more would be made?

Usa, China, Russia have not signed the Ottawa Treaty which prohibits anti-personnel mines. Uk have.

Expendable Grunt wrote: Also, I had originally suggested that the Militia or insurgent faction get AP equipment, in particular trip-traps made from grenades, or in the militias case, actual AP mines.

Spring detonated mines that spray lead over a large diameter and shreds most infantry around it. Was used during the many conflicts in the Balkans regions and is known as one of the deadliest, even during peace as they weren't removed.

-I would love to see the trap flares in more classes though(Spec Ops, Engineer).

thats why you need a fellow spotter with you. 2man squads are the way to go in PR. But then again, your not supposed have people sneak up on you.

Sirsolo wrote:As a sniper, I'd like to say "I've got my *** covered" But I dont. They can walk behind me (say in a building) and I wouldn't even know it.

Do you need to rephrase that or am I really reading this: if I am a sniper, I cannot be found without knowing it.

Hehe, nobody's got their own *** covered. It's a warzone out there man!!

What kills me is that your avatar isn't even a Barret but an Anzio... ;}

Here is a solution to the problem of not knowing if your flares go off.

Connect a sound with them, more specifically a high volume and pitched whistling sound. Kind of like what you hear when a bottle rocket goes off. You could even record the sound of a bottle rocket and the "Pack!" of it going off and make that the sound of the trip flares. This is including the bright flare and smoke it generates.

And it's non-lethal but you will know for damn sure everyone within 200m is going to hear that thing go off. Most importantly the Sniper will hear it.

Trip flares in real life don't make a noise like that, as far as I know. They do give a huge glow, which we can't really simulate such a glow in-game (except for the red glow that it has atm). So for gameplay it might have some another sound attached to it or raise the volume of the current sound?

Trip-nuke?

Sorry .

Is there such a thing as a "trip concussion grenade"? No idea if it exists in a form like that and I don't know how much damage such a thing does, besides giving you a major disorientation, hehe.

Just use trip flares as they were meant to be used... really good flares for chopper extraction.

Flash bang is good idea, but I like the way AIX does them :a loud screaming
skyrocket with a parachute flare that slowly drifts down from 150 feet.
They give you and your team time to look around the map and see where it was tripped (when you have more than one out).When your sneaking around and trip one of those you KNOW you've just screwed to pooch!!

Expendable Grunt wrote:Anti-Personnel mines are against the rules of war. Trip-activated weapons are also against the rules of war.

Your best bet is a buddy to watch your back. Keep in mind that the flares in the marksman kit does not mean you can go wtfpwn sniper off somewhere. The best use of flares are as one small part of a larger trap. Place them in one area, behind an object blocking your LOS, with another guy on C4. When it's tripped, blow the C4.

Also, I had originally suggested that the Militia or insurgent faction get AP equipment, in particular trip-traps made from grenades, or in the militias case, actual AP mines.

Good thing that mines arnt then! That arguement kinda fails. Also:
*Boom* Oh noes! My leg! (APM)
vs.
*KABOOM* Holy ****! That block just blew up! (C4)

Is that what you're suggesting? Because if you are, then your mentality is against the rules of war.

Since this is a later post, I'd like to say some other things (not related to the quote) about things I've read:

I didnt make my avatar, and couldn't care if it was a picture of a pistol, so why do you?

The person who interpreted:

As a sniper, I'd like to say "I've got my *** covered" But I dont. They can walk behind me (say in a building) and I wouldn't even know it.
To:

"if I am a sniper, I cannot be found without knowing it."

Should pass grade 7 English before saying something like that.

For the person who thinks that flares are ment to flag down heli's: Good idea! BUT WHY WASTE THE STRING? (They're trip activated... think about it.)

That's all for now.

Tannhauser wrote:Spring detonated mines that spray lead over a large diameter and shreds most infantry around it. Was used during the many conflicts in the Balkans regions and is known as one of the deadliest, even during peace as they weren't removed.

Thank u for reminding me......since i live in croatia...... ??:

Sirsolo wrote:Good thing that mines arnt then! That arguement kinda fails. Also:
*Boom* Oh noes! My leg! (APM)
vs.
*KABOOM* Holy ****! That block just blew up! (C4)

Is that what you're suggesting? Because if you are, then your mentality is against the rules of war.

Since this is a later post, I'd like to say some other things (not related to the quote) about things I've read:

I didnt make my avatar, and couldn't care if it was a picture of a pistol, so why do you?

The person who interpreted:

As a sniper, I'd like to say "I've got my *** covered" But I dont. They can walk behind me (say in a building) and I wouldn't even know it.
To:

"if I am a sniper, I cannot be found without knowing it."

Should pass grade 7 English before saying something like that.

For the person who thinks that flares are ment to flag down heli's: Good idea! BUT WHY WASTE THE STRING? (They're trip activated... think about it.)

That's all for now.

It probably is. I'm just telling you why trip mines are not in the game. Be hurt about it if you want.

General Dragosh wrote:Thank u for reminding me......since i live in croatia...... ??:

I'm sorry buddy, no offense, just bringing the idea from the movie No man's land that affected me alot. I didn't mean to make you upset or anything, I understand it must be terrible, as much as anything about war is.

Trip flares are even more useless than shotguns. They need to be replaced.