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Bring Back the Old Punkbuster System

Posted: 2008-04-12 17:55
by Zeppelin35
I know that many people here have had many problems with the new punkbuster system. Although it does a better job of catching cheaters, it also kicks a lot of honest players. For me it's gotten so bad that I can't even play on my favorite servers anymore. I've tried finding solutions but I can't. In all honestly this is just insane. During all the time I've played PR I have never run into a single hacker.

I just want to hear from the rest of you if you want to keep the new punkbuster system or go back to the old one.

PS. Sorry I don't know how to start a poll.

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:01
by ice_killer
what is so differnt about his 1 compart to the old 1?

ill be n00b that i dont know but then tell me :mrgreen:

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:02
by bosco_
He's is talking about the md5 checks that are now enabled.

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:06
by Brummy
Thank god that you don't know how to make a poll :)

Anyway, I've had no MD5 problems so far, only PnkbstrB Communication failures, but that's not PR's problem (it's solved anyway). So I vote no, keep the current system, a lot of xfire buddies don't have problems as well.

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:24
by Ryan3215
Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:25
by bosco_
Ryan3215 wrote:Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway
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Posted: 2008-04-12 18:34
by Ryan3215
what? if its gone there will be less lag and server issues. nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain, and if anyone bothers to DL a large mod such as this jsut to cheat deserves to be blacklisted..

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:42
by ReaperMAC
People still cheat. W/o the MD5 Shader thing enabled, people who cheat will be at an advantage because they do not have to deal with the suppression system.

Posted: 2008-04-12 18:48
by bosco_
Ryan3215 wrote: nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain
That statement is so false.

Posted: 2008-04-12 19:09
by Rhino
Ryan3215 wrote:nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain
oh rly? Here is a small list of hackers caught playing PR with hacks.
Username: Necrosexual
GUID: f7736e5d4b98324b5a5ffb89c16bdfe3
VIOLATION: glitching into buildings
http://www.r2clan.com/modules/Forums/files/screen025_103.jpg

Username: =FSG= SuperIronwill
GUID: dcc460555af9d692d01a963ac983b3ba
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6937/pb003398rr0.png
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3263/pb003346zz1.png
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http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7719/pb003539xd2.png
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http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2373/pb003713sv6.png
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7418/pb003610wn0.png


Username: TmWrk_ Tm4_Zoot
GUID: 06395b42f3a41f893f3e58681ae2c18f
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2994/pb002544hv8.png
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6637/pb003058ft7.png
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Username: hoc|trivit
GUID: 00133098b680f91f6bfea515eb1aa912
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Username: Slay-tanic-war-moc
GUID: cadc2ec2868b600483403962dc246
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Username: OUST-AIR-SANITIZER (same person as above)
GUID: cadc2ec2868b3db600483403962dc246
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Username: -=OTB=-|Techniquel
GUID: d93168b4adde8b2fceab6ce9702f6ba7
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Username: kazuya02200220
GUID: 78bc8c1ff59c16eedc3dc437d2052318
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Username: yo=da! samuraioo
GUID: 5424fee98d73d4420b1165d6bece887f
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Username: marutinko
GUID: 2027d082f2cb839f2e6b66d53d7bf2f4
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/pb000037.png


Username: Stika1114
GUID: bce68a0352ba864ed1bd94cadd459a96
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Username: JEX1908
GUID: fd50319fe092910d1d110bdf421aca09
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http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/auto_2007_02_19_23_19_21.bf2demo


Username: (0)^777-21
GUID: cadc2ec2868b3db600483403962dc246
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Username: {SAS}Noxious
GUID: c0e06d2c461edfb2298442b06621caf3


Username: E-111-jackal)-spa(-
GUID: da30654389ea7fb2d44e2e989e2cb8f7
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Username: CavNinja2 [67.168.193.103:4731]
GUID: d2d48e985817f558eaa2f1be8fcfc795
VIOLATION: AIMBOT


Username: SlimyBalls [75.129.224.238:2788]
GUID: fb23077ddab60b8e9c657c15d3697211
VIOLATION: AIMBOT


Username: BlackHawkBrother
GUID: 3e7bbafcc599c3eefb5a993eaa835036
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Username: 3|V|A|D|3|N
GUID: a86c591e5512d5e3a28d80137ff6f003 (this guys old hash 3c827c45aa88990d7808b83a85781dfe)
IP: 71.123.140.87
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Username: =RdD= brazill
GUID: d4a14041fdb2eeec6949504d651de85a
VIOLATION: RED DOT
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Username: yo=da! samuraioo
GUID: ...
VIOLATION: Red Dot
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Username: [AK47]|503|[KILLA]
GUID: ...
VIOLATION: Enemy Nametags
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Username: =82nd= Reaver178
GUID: 531db8f4492ce78630b4c602c61b52be
VIOLATION:

Username: Bigdaddy55
GUID: 0ff87b5e5d3564f51645f5ce1348cdbb
VIOLATION: Altered Skybox
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Username: Foderoso
GUID: bbd7068b27842ae81026e7604bb35b2a
VIOLATION: AIMBOT #50084

Username: meirppp
GUID: 32be0c566fc95011b2bb577ab2b05895
VIOLATION: team switch cheat (player was spawning at usmc base in mapstart as usmc-soldier but was counted as mec. he started shooting usmc guys, getting killcounts for that but no tk.)

Username: |TG| EBODude / |TG|Wolfe336
GUID: 09d553936a5718377924cd3e55642303 80064556
VIOLATION: Blatant Aimbot on the TG server.

Username: Pvt Scott|13thmeu
GUID: 09dbac2520f473d03f7c6b0895db8d34
IP: 99.236.242.255
VIOLATION: Rotor Hacker banned for hacking, cussing, and TK'ing

Username: AK47MURDER
GUID: e9ac24c9b3d5850b994fd19ca15dbe1e
IP: 207.32.55.210
VIOLATION: Nametag Cheats
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000234.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000276.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000295.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000307.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000315.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000354.png

are you happy? you probably play against hackers more times than you think, and many people turned off the shaders as it was such a easy thing to do, i mean just joining though xfire did it and most ppl join servers though xfire, i know i use to alot before the new exe came out.

Posted: 2008-04-12 19:14
by [T]Terranova7
Ryan3215 wrote:Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway
Most naive statement I've ever heard. Just recently we had a big issue of players turning off the suppression shaders (Which is one of the reasons why I think the MD5 checks exist now). If you think people don't cheat, think again.

Posted: 2008-04-12 20:02
by Liquid_Cow
Wasn't there a screen shot from last summer of the command asset hack, where it was raining Vodnicks on a PR server?

You want to set up your own server and run w/o PB be our guest, but I won't be playing there.