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A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-06 00:39
by Serbiak
First of all: I know that posting pictures and information is not even close to develope the army for PR.
It´s just an idea for the time after the new modded armies are finished.

(I thought of starting to help with some modding and developement work, but I still have to learn it since it sure won´t be easy) I might try something and see if I´m able to do it and if so, if you appreciate my work :roll: .


I think it would be great Idea to introduce an African Army, like an African Union Army. I only found weapon systems from South Africa though but they might be the most advanced army in Africa anyways.

My Idea would be to let the African Union fight against Rebels similar to the Insurgents and or conventional armies. The fights could take place in a new jungle terrain as well as in the desert or the veld.

I think it would be a good idea because a big percentage of the conflicts and wars in the world take place in Africa.
List of ongoing conflicts 2007-current by world map - Wikipedia


Just let me know What you think.


Here is what the army could look like: (According to the information I found in the internet all of the following is used by the South Africa army)


The Pistol: Vektor SP1
Modern Firearms - Vektor SP1 and SP2 pistols
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The Assault Rifle: Vektor CR-21
More info for the CR-21 here: Modern Firearms - Vektor CR-21 assault rifle
and here: Vektor CR-21 - Wikipedia
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As well as the CR-21 with the 40mm Vektor grenade launcher:
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A taste of the scope:
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The Shotgun: MAG-7
Modern Firearms - Shotgun MAG-7
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Or: Neostead Shotgun
Modern Firearms - Neostead shotgun
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The Mashine Gun: Vektor SS77
Modern Firearms - Machinegun SS77
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The Sniper Rifle: Mechem NTW-20
Modern Firearms - NTW-20 Sniper Rifle
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Or: Truvelo .50 sniper rifle
Modern Firearms - Sniper Rifle Truvelo .50
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They both are designed to be anti material guns so they probably are not useful for PR.




Vehicles and Aircrafts

As for the tanks, helicopters, jets, armored vehicles and missiles I found this page: South Africa Weapons

Again: it only shows the military arsenal of South Africa.



Fighter Jet / Bomber: Cheetah C (which is retired)
Cheetah- C
Cheetah Specifications
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Or: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
It has been developed in different versions (one with two seats).
JAS-39D Gripen
JAS-39C Gripen
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Transport Helicopter: Super Lynx 300
Super Lynx 300 gallery
Super Lynx 300
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Attack Helicopter: Rooivalk
Rooivalk Attack Helicopter
Rooivalk Specifications
Rooivalk gallery
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Main Battle Tank: Olifant
Which is the modernised version of the british battle tank Centurion.
Olifant MK 1B - Main Battle Tank
Centurion Tank - Wikipedia
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Or: Tank Technology Demonstrator [TTD]
Which is supposed to replace the Olifant in 2009.
Tank Technology Demonstrator [TTD]
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Jeep: Scout RG-32
RG-32M
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Or: RG-31 Nyala which is used in Iraq as well.
RG-31 Nyala - Wikipedia
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APC: Casspir
Ugly as hell but wow read the facts.
Casspir
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Or: Ratel IFV
Ratel IFV - Wikipedia
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Posted: 2008-05-06 00:44
by DeltaFart
Post this in the PR Community forum, maybe someone will consider making this into a community mod, other than that, I'm not sure if this will make the cut

Posted: 2008-05-06 09:57
by Maxfragg
the point is, that there are already enough community factions, so don't think that something like that will happen also i have to admit that there are some nice weapons

Posted: 2008-05-06 10:02
by Rudd
I was always interested in both an AU and UN faction tbh (or EU faction LOLz!!). A long time ago a dev mentioned a Somalia map was in the mix, but I think it was dropped. - even if it wasnt dropped I dont think they were making a new faction for it.

Posted: 2008-05-06 10:05
by LtSoucy
get a mod team togather and try to make it, I don't think the devs will spend there time on this now.

Posted: 2008-05-06 11:35
by Maxfragg
btw, the Rooivalk will be in next AIX release and the Nyala has been made for canadian faction

Posted: 2008-05-06 12:17
by Darkpowder
Similar ideas have been presented in the past. Personally i think that an african uniion army would be interesting. It would be a good excuse to see a dominance of black soldiers - as seen previously in vanilla BF2. ( i don't care what the politically acceptable phrase is of the day )

The Ethiopian army are currently heavily featured in fighting with insurgents involved in somalia, and this and future engagements would be interesting.

China vs. African factioned army would be interesting, considering the huge chinese influence in africa at the moment.

Also interesting would be MEC vs. this faction considering the Quatar factor in Somalia at the moment.

Something along the lines of the ETHIOPIAN ARMY has..

1 - Relevance in todays conflicts, and involvement with insurgency
2 - Duplication of a lot of "Russian" (sic.) equipment, allowing little work to achieve the majority of the army loadout.
3 - Potential for interesting insurgency style maps, with re-skinned Militia Faction tanks and armour to make up the majority of the force.
4 - Nice assymetric potential with high tech armies deployed with little armour vs. older design african formations.

Military of Ethiopia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

T-55's/T-62's/T-72's
BMP1/BTR's
BRDM's
SU-27's and SU-25's (frogfoots)

AK47 & G3 as std infantry weapons
PKM/DSHK Mg's

A few soldier skins with a couple of maps should equip this quickly i would say as a faction.
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Posted: 2008-05-06 13:22
by DeltaFart
not to be racist hahaha, but first pic the guy look like dave chapelle

Posted: 2008-05-06 13:43
by AnRK
We do need some African representation, I think South America ids pretty desperate too. I think when a couple of community factions are complete then maybe something will happen.

That equipment roster is a bit of a mashup of the old, new, cheap and very ****ing expensive though isn't it?
DeltaFart wrote:not to be racist hahaha, but first pic the guy look like dave chapelle
That's not racist! He proper does though, just a bit older and obviously has seen some horrible shit in his time.

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-06 23:29
by Sirsolo
I like all the info but IMO, a Canadian Army with some F/A-18 Hornets would rock more. =)

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-07 00:17
by Bringerof_D
i really like this idea, i'd definetly like more deep jungle combat, some thick bushes to hide in, back in BF1942 FH i'd love to hide in bushes and pick people off as the come off Gold beach.

as well i'd think it would be easy to make this addition, just reskin the uniforms and vehichles, make the people african and use the AKs, i dont think the majority of troops are using any of the new weapons yet. not exactly cheap and as well the aks are more durable and cost effective

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-07 19:07
by Serbiak
AnRK wrote:That equipment roster is a bit of a mashup of the old, new, cheap and very ****ing expensive though isn't it?
Yeah it actually is :D but hegg it´s just an idea.

Sirsolo wrote:I like all the info but IMO, a Canadian Army with some F/A-18 Hornets would rock more. =)
As far as I know a Canadian army is planned and the developement has started.

Bringerof_D wrote:as well i'd think it would be easy to make this addition, just reskin the uniforms and vehichles, make the people african and use the AKs, i dont think the majority of troops are using any of the new weapons yet. not exactly cheap and as well the aks are more durable and cost effective
If there would be a african faction in PR it would probably be realistic to have most of the soldiers have AKs and other low budget weapons. But it´s not only the faction I care about also the terrain could be really intersting.
Like you said in BF 1942 one could still really hide in bushes, which is kinda rare now.

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-07 19:51
by ReaperMAC
Yes, we need an African army..... FOR OKITA's map! ;) along with 12 requestable Spec-op kits :-P

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-07 23:17
by Heskey
DeltaFart wrote:not to be racist hahaha, but...
No worries, it wasn't racist :P

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 14:16
by Nemesis6
Sirsolo wrote:I like all the info but IMO, a Canadian Army with some F/A-18 Hornets would rock more. =)
That would make every start of the game like South Park - "Roger that, buddy!", "Negative, friend!", "Understood, guy!"

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 19:35
by blud
I don't think this will be made into a community mod, BUT, I really like a thread like this, sort of like an imaginary faction for PR showing all the vehicles, weapons, and soldiers etc. Just the thread on it's own is quite interesting. Would be cool if someone would do a thread for like .. The Iranian army, or a realistic Chinese army.

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 19:49
by Rangu
ReaperMAC wrote:Yes, we need an African army..... FOR OKITA's map! ;) along with 12 requestable Spec-op kits :-P
I second that! :D

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 20:46
by Psyko
What about a civil war? I dont know if it is overstepping the line, but i only mention it, because it might provide a way to have AKs versus AKs instead of basic iron sites like insurgents versus higher technology based civilisations. I'm interested in seeing the same weapons used against each army.

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 20:55
by Cyrax-Sektor
'[T wrote:BludShoT;671219']I don't think this will be made into a community mod, BUT, I really like a thread like this, sort of like an imaginary faction for PR showing all the vehicles, weapons, and soldiers etc. Just the thread on it's own is quite interesting. Would be cool if someone would do a thread for like .. The Iranian army, or a realistic Chinese army.
Are you psychic? I've been cooking up ideas in my head for the Iranians, who they'd fight, where they'd fight. I even have a sat dish hooked up to catch some Iranian channels, which probably gave me the idea while surfing through 300+ channels.

Even saw footage of their army once, they were showing off their vehicles, troops and naval units. A group of soldiers exited LCAC-type craft and went prone one by one on the sandy shore. I knew then that would be one army meant for PR.

Iran vs MEC (the Iran-Iraq war on a smaller scale). Iran vs Insurgents (a shoe-in). Iran vs Militia (Russia's close, and the Militia may go through Georgia to smuggle "goods"). Iran vs PLA, a long shot, but PLA desert skins are in the works, all one needs is the proper scenario. At the current moment, it would not be realistic to pit Iran versus a Western coalition, although tension is present, no military action has been taken. Then again, no military action has been taken against China. :p

Once I learn more about the editor, and about the equipment themselves, I could do little prototypes to make the Iranian forces a little closer to becoming a virtual reality.

Re: A new African Army?

Posted: 2008-05-08 21:02
by Igloo35
an african army is a brilliant idea. it helps expand current day story lines gives new maps , and gives the mec army another team to kick its *** ;)