http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-97NIHa0E[/youtube]
Now, the Javelin has been turned down because it is "over powered" but what about if the Javelin's "guts" are put into the SRAW and ERYX?
At least the SRAW, since the SRAW locks onto targets... But of course, to not make it "over powered" the view would be shorter, or just as far as it sees currently. And of course the missiles power would be reduced so that it would take 2 missiles(varies by spot like it already does) in order to kill armored vehicles.
You catch my drift? To make the SRAW and ERYX not more powerful...to keep the same power, but to make it a little more realistic, so that they lock onto targetsm rather than just trying to guide an AT missile to its target 500 meters away, when in real life, it would lock on and then yopu are buy reloading.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 09:58
by Jaymz
The SRAW is a F&F (Fire and Forget) weapon. You point at the target, shoot and the projectile itself does the work for you. So you are partly right on that one.
The Eryx is SACLOS guided which, for all intensive purposes, is what it is in PR right now.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 11:12
by Mora
Hmm i have to agree, the SRAW should be able to lockon targets.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 11:24
by Drav
Hi guys. I was looking into this a while ago. I got the sraw to lock on to targets like it should, but the the project stalled when it became apparent that making the SRAW realistic had the opposite effect to what I was expecting. Rather than being the fire and forget monster to totally favour the US, the SRAW actually became a lot less efective than the Eryx in PR. This is because the SRAW can only hit moving targets at up to 200m away, which leads to the Eryx being superior in almost every way ingame.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 17:44
by ralfidude
I really think the Javelin could work for PR, only one per side of the team. You can limit that gun too, i mean, in the vid it looks like it locks on right away. IRL it takes a little while. Why cant we make it so that u have to track the target for a good 5-7 seconds within a box like in COD4, and then it fires. Only one javelin, longer relaod time at a supply crate or cache than the standard eryx now. ALso can make it so it doesnt track while ur moving, u have to stay still for persay 2-3 seconds, and then pull up ur scope and start tracking the target.
As far as iv noticed, the ERYX that are fired have a 90% hit ration in my book, it wouldnt be that much different for the javelin.
Oh just thought of another thing, although there are no known countermeasures for the javelin and it is a heat signature tracker, we could make it a tadddd bit more fair if the smoke deployed by tank distorts the tracking. Not really realistic, but it wouldnt be that much more wrong from some other ideas implemented in PR...
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 18:06
by Waaah_Wah
Javelin is fire and forget and its a one hit kill. Thats why it would be overpowered.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 18:48
by Mora
So a hat is a one shot kill too if you know how to use it.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 18:52
by HughJass
Mora wrote:So a hat is a one shot kill too if you know how to use it.
not for heavy armor.
But I guess the javelin CAN work if it would take 2 hits like the HAT, and it would take sometime to lock on
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 19:46
by Mora
HAT can take down a tank with one shot from the back or the tracks.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 20:16
by 77SiCaRiO77
the javalin is oneshot-one kill only when using the top attack mode .
to balance his "overpowerness" give the javalin only one missil , not two like current HAT kits.
and , just to increase realisticness , add "flares" to the t90 and ztz98 , since both tanks hav system to confuse and avoid traking by ATGM .
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-01 20:23
by Waaah_Wah
^^It doesnt kill it in one hit if the tank is not damaged
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 06:31
by maverick551
I think that the Javelin should be re implemented but in a way that doesn't over power it and keeps it somewhat realistic at the same time. < I know it sounds easier that it really is.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 07:51
by STORM-Mama
77SiCaRiO77 wrote:
and , just to increase realisticness , add "flares" to the t90 and ztz98 , since both tanks hav system to confuse and avoid traking by ATGM .
That's a very good way to balance things out. Give the US a better HAT - make the Chinese and MEC tanks better.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 09:06
by General Dragosh
STORM-Mama wrote:That's a very good way to balance things out. Give the US a better HAT - make the Chinese and MEC tanks better.
So that means make the T-90 more realistic with its defenses...........hmmm..........................................Its a deal , Super Engie vodnik AA is back in action !
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 10:28
by Mora
Would be unrealistic against western tanks a T-90 stronger then M1A1? or a C2?
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 15:51
by 77SiCaRiO77
dont worrie , the super duper western tank will still have the same HP and same armament like right now (yay for mirror balancing) just that evil eastern tanks will have flares , since those tanks IRL have similar systems (the t90 have the shtora and the ztz99 a lazer thing in the comander cupula that blind visors and tracking devices)
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 17:48
by ostupidman
There are smoke screen systems for armored vehicles that generate heat as well so that they can not be seen with thermal vision I guess that could work for the anti javelin system. Just pop out some flares with the smoke screen.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 18:54
by Tirak
I would support everyone getting Smoke/Flares, because we have to consider balance from the Attack Helicopter and Attack Aircraft perspective, not just the HAT Kit perspective.
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 22:00
by Waaah_Wah
Mora wrote:Would be unrealistic against western tanks a T-90 stronger then M1A1? or a C2?
Jesus... How exactly do you know that the M1A1 or CR2 is better than T90?
Re: SRAW and ERYX skin.....Javelin guts
Posted: 2008-06-02 22:05
by [=TC=]nuetron
Waaah_Wah wrote:Jesus... How exactly do you know that the M1A1 or CR2 is better than T90?
The T90 is made by Russia, the M1A2 is made by the United States, the Challenger II is made by Great Britian.
Thats how we know that they are better....
Oh, and the M1 and Challenger
are made with special secret anti-armor piercing shells...