Page 1 of 2

[Map] Southwest Fallujah [scrapped]

Posted: 2008-06-15 20:44
by EOD_Security-2252
Well, I posted about me working on this before because I had a problem, but I figured that now I'll actually post it as a WIP. I'm pretty much doing this map on the side because I'm awaiting an assignment from PR German Forces, but no matter.

I know that a lot of people want an American version of Al Basrah, and I would too. So, I figured that Al Fallujah would be the best place for an American, Iraq-based Insurgency map. I've started work on it, and I've discovered that making cities is just as bad as I thought it was (ie. lots of work and very boring).

This is the area of Southwest Fallujah( actually the most Southwestern tip of the city itself), but only the residential side of town. The south side's on the map, but I cut it off because when I took this picture I planned on only doing the residential area that I've based the town part of the map on. Notice the double-lane highway running through the town. This separates the map between more commercial zones and totally residential areas (on my map that is, it looks that way from Google Earth, but I still can't say because I've never been there). The South side (commercial) will be statics from PR, XPack and BF2. The North (residential) side will all be destructible houses.
Image

So far I've only finished about 1/3 of the south side of the city.
Image

Then, the fictional part is the USMC Base because I didn't want the map to be mainly desert (Camp Fallujah is large enough to be its own map and it's pretty far from Al Fallujah (the city itself)).
Image
Image

One side of the US Base has vehicles and will have spawns.
Image

The other side has the two helicopters: a huey and an AH6 with Missles.
Image

Finally, there is a guardtower with a SAW to protect the base (even though it has the dome of death).
Image

So, please critique the map. Also, if you've ever map an Insurgency map please help me out with how to actually map the Insurgent spawns and caches. (I read the Map_Audit tutorial and it didn't really help me)

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 20:47
by Brummy
There is already an official PR made Fallujah coming up ;)

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 20:49
by EOD_Security-2252
Well, that's....









AWESOME!!! I hate making urban maps. I just decided I do this for the community.

All hail PR for lightening my workload, but now I'll just be bored, oh well.
And that's funny because I searched the forums and I found nothing about a Fallujah WIP, but no matter.

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 20:56
by Brummy

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 21:03
by Scot
hehe owned :P but yeah can't wait for it!! But if your bored, make more British desert maps plese!!

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 21:54
by =Romagnolo=
a very promissing map. Good luck.

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:01
by LtSoucy
looks like a nice start. maybe so should make it half urban and half desert. Showing the USMC push into the city.

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:05
by jayceon515
What size is it?
I also wanted to make Fallujah but bigger than what Duckhunt is working on so there could also be heavy assets such as tanks and attack helos.

Now since there is already an official Fallujah being worked on are you going to continue working on it?
What I like about your idea is that it's actually an Iraqi and not another Afghan map. There are already plenty of them being made.

US vs INS insurgency maps FTW :mrgreen:

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:08
by EOD_Security-2252
Why would I ever make more British maps for PR? Especially desert?! For one, it was explained to me that PR was designed to make British stuff and realism, so I'm not going to do something they're going to do. Second, I don't like desert maps. Finally, I'm an American, sorry, I have a bias to America and my three main heritages (Polish, German and Irish).

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:10
by LtSoucy
lol, good man. i would love to see this map bigger and maybe allow for alot of fighting which would force the ins to stay in the city or die.

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:15
by Scot
Pleease??? :P but i was joking lol, make whatever map you want, i dont care, as long as i have a decent squad, i dont care what map it is(excludes HoH, Road to kyngonagndjn'ni and Daqin)

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:17
by USMC[KILLER]
Here bro, I got a site all about the battles in Fallujah w/ maps and such. It should help you, if your still planing on making it.

Battle for Fallujah

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:17
by EOD_Security-2252
I would too, but I really don't want to make a 900x900 (at least, I'm cutting out some from 1024x1024 to allow for combat area space) with nothing but only about 120 different building models arranged in different ways taking up tons of streets. Gets repetitive for players even though the streets wouldn't look the same, and it's extremely boring for me, with music, food or nothing, it's still really boring.

Thanks for the website killer. I might made the Euphrates River Bridge area in my free time.

I'd really like to do some maps about the areas that Delta Company (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443479/, it's on the Military Channel sometimes) went over in the initial invasion of Iraq, but that would just be a highway and some random Iraqi bunkers here and there.

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:31
by Scot
Very good find Killer, reading it now

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-15 22:42
by THE_BIG_ADDY
the father of a friend of mine is a american soldier and he was in fallujah ^^

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-16 00:00
by EOD_Security-2252
There a lot of Americans living in Germany now a days, I should get in on that.

Ok, now what would y'all (yeah said y'all) like more? - GB vs. Militia in Insurgency Mode (I like Militia, but USMC can't fight them (makes no sense)) or USMC vs. Insurgents in Insurgency. If the USMC option - Afghanistan Mountains in Winter, Kuwaiti-Iraqi Border, Basrah Bridge (reference Delta Company again) or Euphrates River Bridge?

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-16 01:03
by Tirak
I'm somewhat concerned by the balancing of two tanks and the Little Bird (Missle). The Challenger on Basrah is already very powerful, and the Apache was taken out due to balance issues, I support some kind of mobile air firepower, but perhaps two of the Minigun varient would be better suited and cutting the tanks entirely?

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-16 01:14
by EOD_Security-2252
I can't get rid of the tanks though because tanks were the main vehicle for the USMC assault on Fallujah. I'm figuring to balance the map that insurgents would just have RPGs and SA7s in about every 3rd building. That sound good?

Re: [WIP] Southwest Fallujah

Posted: 2008-06-16 01:19
by Tirak
*Shrug*

I'm just thinking from a gameplay view, and it may not even be correct, it's just my opinion. You're the mapper and you've got a better idea of how your map is going to work than I could have just by looking at a few screen shot. Besides, it's still a WIP.

Re: [Map] Southwest Fallujah [WIP]

Posted: 2008-06-16 02:35
by EOD_Security-2252
Definately, and I probably won't finish it now.