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Posted: 2008-06-18 21:07
by dbzao
We are working on some changes to the overall rules regarding the Deployable Assets in PR.

You probably noticed the last releases focused a lot on standarization and simplification of gameplay rules, and that is always something in our minds when we do changes and additions to gameplay.

So we are changing some rules because of forthcoming additions and to improve overall gameplay. All deployment rules you will see bellow have this same set of rules we are used to in the current release:

- Deployable by Squad Leaders or Commander with Officer kit
- 50m close to Support Truck or 2 supply crates

Let's get to the changes:

1. No Command Posts

We removed the Command Post as a Commander deployable, and now it's mapper set to serve as ammunition and repair station for vehicles at the main bases. We are still working on this asset and maybe it will return in a later time. But, for now, it's not a requirement to deploy any other asset anymore.

2. Bunkers and Firebases = Forward Outposts

We united both Bunkers and Firebases into something we call Forward Outposts. So now you have only one set of rules to control all Forward Outposts:

- Maximum of 4
- 200m or more away from each other

The system will automatically spawn the Bunker model if you are deploying close to a Control Point, or the Firebase model if you are away. This means you can have any combination of Forward Outposts, close or away from CPs.

3. Commander Approval for Forward Outposts

We noticed the big spam that happens when you are in a team that doesn't have a Commander. Everybody starts asking that somebody be one, just so that the team can deploy Forward Outposts as it's a very important asset, specially after you lose your squad's Rally Point.

Our change here is that you won't need Commander approval to build a Forward Outpost IF your team doesn't have a Commander, BUT you will still need an approval if you DO have a Commander.

If your team doesn't have a Commander, for whatever reason, we don't want to force players to do a job that maybe they are not confortable with just so your team can have a place to spawn. But if somebody actually want to be a good Commander, the team will need to follow his plan with regards to the logistics and overall strategy, and benefit from greater coordination and other assets the Commander have under his belt.

4. Sandbags and Razorwires

They will also be grouped in a single set of rules, but the player can still choose what to deploy.

- Maximum of 10 in the same area (any combination)
- 200m close to a Forward Outpost

You can have any combination, like 8 sandbags and 2 razorwires, 3 sandbags and 7 razorwires, etc. Also we increased the distance they can be deployed from Forward Outposts from 100m to 200m, so they are not set as much as defensive structures for your Outpost, but defined at important locations while your Outpost is left in a safer position.

5. Anti-Air and Heavy Machine Guns

As showcased in another DEV Journal, we are working on .50 cal deployables, so these HMGs and the current AA guns are joined together in a single set of rules as well.

- Maximum of 2 in the same area (any combination)
- Maximum of 2 per Forward Outpost
- 200m close to a Forward Outpost

You can deploy either, 1 AA and 1 HMG, or 2 AAs, or 2 HMGs.

Here's how the Squad Leader comm rose will look like:

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You probably know, but the slashes "/" between words mean you can left click or right click to get different actions from the same button.

The blank space in the comm rose is also intentional as we will probably get other deployable assets in the near future. I wonder if you can guess what they are ;)

Anyways, those are the simplified and standarized rules we are working on for the next release and hopefully they will have a good impact on gameplay.

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:14
by SuperTimo
mmmmm assets :)

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:33
by Sabre_tooth_tigger
Niftiness. How about a commander remotely deployed invisible truck to drop on the heads of squad leaders who dont follow orders :icon_lol:

I like #3 and will #2 mean we can could even have 4 firebases at the start of a game from which to assault from ie. its not tied to amount of flags held

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:34
by Scot
Very nice update, cant wait for this 0.8 now!!

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:46
by General Dragosh
Me too, i feel fuzzy now :mrgreen:

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:48
by dbzao
Sabre_tooth_tigger wrote:I like #3 and will #2 mean we can could even have 4 firebases at the start of a game from which to assault from ie. its not tied to amount of flags held
Yes.

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 21:54
by Ironcomatose
Awesome, nothing i see wrong in there and i look forward to the next release :)

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:02
by =Romagnolo=
I rent this post

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:04
by killer010devin
ohh OHHH i know the last one.. its fast ropes... isnt itt??



=P

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:39
by Ecko
lol, 2 hueys with 3 engys and an officer could set up loads of Firebases ^^.

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:40
by Mora
Mortars?

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:44
by gumball
Mora wrote:Mortars?
actually, that makes sense and that may be it, hmmm, can we get a wink?

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-18 22:48
by Ironcomatose
Ecko wrote:lol, 2 hueys with 3 engys and an officer could set up loads of Firebases ^^.
Thats kinda the idea i would think. To be able to set up hopefully well placed assets on the fly without all the hassle of dealing with a commander. Although you still need a truck and good luck getting to competent hueys to set up a base. :roll:

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 00:08
by jaspercat444
Ecko wrote:lol, 2 hueys with 3 engys and an officer could set up loads of Firebases ^^.
Ehem, Forward Outposts, thanks :roll:

Anyway, this part I like:
[3. Commander Approval for Forward Outposts

We noticed the big spam that happens when you are in a team that doesn't have a Commander. Everybody starts asking that somebody be one, just so that the team can deploy Forward Outposts as it's a very important asset, specially after you lose your squad's Rally Point.

Our change here is that you won't need Commander approval to build a Forward Outpost IF your team doesn't have a Commander, BUT you will still need an approval if you DO have a Commander.

If your team doesn't have a Commander, for whatever reason, we don't want to force players to do a job that maybe they are not confortable with just so your team can have a place to spawn. But if somebody actually want to be a good Commander, the team will need to follow his plan with regards to the logistics and overall strategy, and benefit from greater coordination and other assets the Commander have under his belt/QUOTE]

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 01:52
by Psyko
Cool :)

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 02:00
by CodeRedFox
Ghost1800 wrote:I've been waiting for #1 for forever :D
Any reason? Just curious :-P

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 02:34
by Tirak
I like most of it, but #1 has me concerned, the CP not just rearmed and repaired, it also served as a vehicle spawn point, have any plans been made to address that, i.e. more trucks spawning on maps, or is it just being ignored?

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 02:46
by HughJass
Sweet, I love the FOB system. I just wish there could be more of a sandbox like placement put in, but that is really asking too much :D Good work guys.

Re: [Gameplay] Deployable Assets

Posted: 2008-06-19 02:48
by dbzao
Tirak wrote:I like most of it, but #1 has me concerned, the CP not just rearmed and repaired, it also served as a vehicle spawn point, have any plans been made to address that, i.e. more trucks spawning on maps, or is it just being ignored?
More trucks spawns placed by mappers.