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Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 16:36
by M_Striker
Hi, I was told that the harrier realistically cannot take off vertically with its full weapon payload fitted to the aircraft. Is this true? And if it is, i was wondering if the upcoming harrier GR9s will be able to overcome this flaw. I read it would have stronger engine power. Just wonderin'.
how will the jet handle in terms of hovering basically... (in PR)
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 16:50
by Rhino
in r/l the harrier (including GR9 which has been in service for some time now) can not take off vertically with a full pay load of weapons afaik.
The Harrier is a STOVL aircraft really.
In PR due to the BF2 engine limits I don't think there will be any way in stopping the harrier from taking off vertically unless we dont allow it to land vertically as well

Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 17:47
by Tirak
So the harrier will be able to take off and land verticly? I'll finally be able to fly a plane and land it?

Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 18:44
by Rhino
Tirak wrote:So the harrier will be able to take off and land verticly? I'll finally be able to fly a plane and land it?
well getting it into VTOL may be quite hard, in r/l its pretty hard to control the aircraft in hover mode.
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 19:21
by Ironcomatose
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:well getting it into VTOL may be quite hard, in r/l its pretty hard to control the aircraft in hover mode.
Thank god this is only a game

Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 19:42
by SuperArmy
i can imagin whats its gonna be like when we do get the harrier. total carnage in the air! lol
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 19:51
by Sir.Saul
I think some "noobs" if you will, will treat it like a helicopter
Though question to Rhino, in the training version there is a Harrier on 64 Kashan map.
Will the Harrier have the same controls as that one, or have you completely redone it?
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 20:05
by Rhino
Sir.Saul wrote:I think some "noobs" if you will, will treat it like a helicopter
Though question to Rhino, in the training version there is a Harrier on 64 Kashan map.
Will the Harrier have the same controls as that one, or have you completely redone it?
that is the old Harrier GR7, that was made and imported before I was even a dev
We have a new Harrier GR9

Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 20:24
by baptist_christian
black-wolf wrote:That thin gin the training mode sucks at handling.
yeah, it keeps diving even when you dont' put anything into the controls.
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 21:44
by Waaah_Wah
Sir.Saul wrote:I think some "noobs" if you will, will treat it like a helicopter
I know that i will

Im soooooo gonna hover than thing 200-300 meters from a flag and spray the whole area with the MG
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 21:50
by Alex6714
Waaah_Wah wrote:I know that i will

Im soooooo gonna hover than thing 200-300 meters from a flag and spray the whole area with the MG
Beep *BOOM* is what you will hear.

Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-21 22:01
by Harrod200
If that...RPG magnet methinks.
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-22 00:51
by Sir.Saul
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:that is the old Harrier GR7, that was made and imported before I was even a dev
We have a new Harrier GR9
Well the question was not about wether the new-to-come Harrier was a new version, or as you said GR7 to GR9
It was if the control have been changed, but I take your answer as a yes

Also the current Harrier controls are foolish and unrealistic. Hope your dev guys do your magical thing.
Re: Harrier and its "jumping" capabilities
Posted: 2008-06-22 01:40
by [=TC=]nuetron
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:well getting it into VTOL may be quite hard, in r/l its pretty hard to control the aircraft in hover mode.
Can there be a system(in PR not server) where the person who flips a Harrier 2 times automtically gets like -1000 points???? For those nubs who jump in it and try to fly like in vanilla(not caring).
Because 1 time isn't really......it could be an accident or lagg.
But if somebody is lagging that bad than they shouldn't be flying anyways.