lack of optic weapons makes playing insurgents quite deppresing sometimes so what if the Devs threw in a scoped sks pick-up kit
so wadda ya think?
with the dragunov taken out of game i only think its fair the insurgents should have at least some sort of scoped semiauto rifle
also ive seen pics of the RPK remodled (i think it was R-mod Dylans work im not sure tho) and was wondering if their were plans for it to be included ingame
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-25 07:04
by Maxfragg
i actually think that its more likely that the dragunov will come back in 0.8
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 03:39
by charliegrs
the dragonuv really needs to make a comeback, real life insurgents use them in droves. same goes for the rpk, why this isnt included is beyond me. even if they just use the vanilla version. an RPD would be really awesome as well.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 03:55
by HughJass
well its not the svd, it the kalshiv (something like that) A cheap version of the svd, and a reskin would be nice too.
Scoped sks are very rare from what I hear, and need an actual part to be changed out in the rifle in order to be mounted.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 04:14
by gclark03
Rarity isn't really a problem in the PR mod. Just think of how rare the Militia PPsh is in real life!
The scoped SKS would be a useful weapon alongside the SVD - remember that Insurgents don't standardize their weapon caches, but find anything that can kill the enemy, thereby increasing their virgin count in the afterlife.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 06:11
by CAS_117
I endorse all be-scoped weapons.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 10:25
by SuperTimo
yeah they had a scoped RPG
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 10:47
by M.Warren
charliegrs wrote:the dragonuv really needs to make a comeback, real life insurgents use them in droves. same goes for the rpk, why this isnt included is beyond me. even if they just use the vanilla version. an RPD would be really awesome as well.
Yeah, the SVD is coming back apparently as the MEC is being awarded a new Marksman rifle. I too am puzzled why the RPK isn't mixed in with the PKM at insurgent RP Caches or even given to the Militia. Oh well.
But an RPD? That had me going back to the days of Rainbow Six Three: Ravenshield. The RPD is an older style weapon and it fires using a cloth belt fed mechanism, compared to the more modern disintegrating metallic belt fed links.
Why do teh INS need scoped weapons? They shouldn't be engaging the British out at 200m, they should be opening fire on confused troops after the WIMIK or IFV has just been blown up, using full auto fire from concealed positions.
Then should they stop firing, pull out of the area and vanish.
People should stop trying to engage the Brits on their own terms! Make the fight come to you and then screw them over a barrel. The scope doesn't matter a damn if you're close enough.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 14:27
by gclark03
Getting close enough is hard, even if the Insurgents stay in the city and defend the way they're meant to. Almost every time I've had the opportunity to be an Ambusher and place an IED by the road, I've been shot dead by a Brit around the corner. When I do keep my weapon out and a vehicle goes by, I rarely have time to switch to the remote before the vehicle is gone and Brits are flooding my position.
Anyway, the real discussion is about Insurgent marksmen. Masaq, your point certainly applies to the Insurgent sniper kit, but a marksman kit is an important part of urban warfare. Adding another marksman alongside the SVD wouldn't disrupt balance too much, would it?
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-26 14:48
by Masaq
All it would do is encourage people to go out looking for the Brits though.
Placing IEDs and running an ambush site is a doddle, if you following some guidelines:
Don't do it alone
Have your buddy/buddies look around the area before you move to the ambush zone
Hide the IED behind debris etc
Use multiple IEDs on opposite sides of the street to capture the whole width of the road in the blast, use IEDs from two ambushers to rig an entire junction
Place it well in advance of vehicles moving in your direction
Look to ambush main routes into the city, main routes out of the city and other chockepoints
Be prepared to wait!
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 02:33
by GR34
and give a scoped MiniMi to the brits and canadians and give the US a SAW with a scope 2 same with China and the MEC, IRL MG,s ahve scopes 4x zoom would be Great
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 03:47
by Bringerof_D
heheh yeah this would be nice, though for whoever said they need to replace a peice to place the scope...if you got some screws 4 shelve mounting brackets and a roll of duct tape, you dont need to change anything.
oh and yeah alotta people complain about the whole hard to use iron sights thing, when i play INSURGENT i get an AK and i rarely ever use the sights just run into the nearest enemy group full auto just remember where the middle of your screen is
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 13:21
by Masaq
Bringerof_D wrote:oh and yeah alotta people complain about the whole hard to use iron sights thing, when i play INSURGENT i get an AK and i rarely ever use the sights just run into the nearest enemy group full auto just remember where the middle of your screen is
Exactly. Full auto rock n' roll at point blank is the way to go
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 14:03
by Waaah_Wah
Dont use the AK when your insurgent, use the PKM . No tracers, and its a one hit kill. Got i love that weapon.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 21:54
by Killer-Ape
How about adding some RPK kits to Al Basrah? The dice model looks good and you can find them inside technical trucks already. So why not add them as pickups? 75 rounds and deadly accuracy.. I’D buy that for a camel, …dollar
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-27 22:58
by EOD_Security-2252
Despite how unrealistic it is, the insurgents really do need at least one non-pickup scoped gun in a kit, just to even up the playing field, or (if you really don't want to give insurgents a scoped gun) give the AK double the 5.56 guns' damage and give Insurgents a bunch of ammo.
Re: sks with optics + RPK
Posted: 2008-06-28 00:34
by Conman51
EOD_Security-2252 wrote:Despite how unrealistic it is, the insurgents really do need at least one non-pickup scoped gun in a kit, just to even up the playing field, or (if you really don't want to give insurgents a scoped gun) give the AK double the 5.56 guns' damage and give Insurgents a bunch of ammo.
war isnt fair..i think its fine..maybe the SVD or the RPK would be nice as a pick up..but i see the insurgents winning games enough w/ what they have