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How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 00:27
by Wolfe
Using a standard issue riflemen (M16, for example) in scope mode, and assuming you are stationary, and also assuming that you have 0 ping, how easily should you be able to hit a moving solder at a range of 100 meters?

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 01:40
by X1 Spriggan
AY, I put 50% taking in all the factors of the game ( ping, hit detection , and thinking of gameplay ect.) but then I re-read your post. Realistically, if your target is out in the open and your sight is pointed directly at him at that close a range, and you have no reason to misfire( out of breath ect.) then the chance of hitting that target should be 75%-95%.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 01:44
by S.O.P
I voted 100% for a similar reason.

In-game, no wind, everything the same, stable M16, mouse in the correct position, (standing/crouch/prone??), theoretically you should get a hit on every shot you make.

Personally, I'd say 100% prone, 85-90% crouched, 75% standing.

Then comes the whole cone-of-fire/scope sway/deviation argument.

Realistically, that's a different argument as well. The question didn't take that into account.


Edit: The question also didn't take type of movement into account. Fast, perpendicular, erratic etc.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 01:48
by Rudd
assuming he's running in a linear path with no obstructions and I am crouched, 100%, but since thats rarely the case, 75% is my vote

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 01:51
by frrankosuave
I "should" be able to hit a moving target 100% of the time. Maybe not with every bullet but with 7 out of 10.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 01:52
by R.J.Travis
75% gets my vote

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 02:05
by Nodachi7
do you have to lead the target or just aim right on him?

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 02:59
by baptist_christian
it really depends. if he is moving parallel to my bearing, I usually hit and kill them. if they're moving perpendicular to my bearing, it's ****ing impossible to hit him.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 03:58
by Razick
100m would be a fairly easy shot with the 5.56 weapons because of its speed but it shouldnt be a pin point shot by any means. Im pretty sure this another deviation related poll and I would say it should have mostly minimal effects to it at a man sized moving target at 100m but once past that it should be significantly more difficult. Good marksmanship should not be a random occurrence is what Im saying.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 07:46
by Waaah_Wah
Does he run directly at you, away from you or is he moving perpendicular to my bearing? If directly at me, 100%. If hes moving perpendicular, then 0-25%. If hes zizzagging, then i will pull out my AT-4...

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 09:05
by x.trEm*e
depending on my skills... 50%
a bit of a weird question... you should hit a position 100% when you considered bullet flight time and bullet flight line and the bullet is exactly flying like it would fly from a barrel (excluding any deviation algorithms and including realistic ballistics calculation)

testing that sort of exercise in ARMA I hit 60% of fast moving targets between 50m and 300m, while using realistic mods for weapons behaivor and ballistics

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 09:07
by KkarlArsch
frrankosuave wrote:I "should" be able to hit a moving target 100% of the time. Maybe not with every bullet but with 7 out of 10.
Woar, you get 100% accuracy with 7 hits out of 10 shots? :-D


Assuming that the guy I'm shooting at is a numb sack and keeps running like on autopilot, I might hit with 75% of my rounds. If he goes nuts after the first hit (going prone, ziggzagg) I'd say only 25% - and if he starts bunny hopping chances of hitting the target are 130% since I'd love to call in a freaking JDAM for that kind of people.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 09:14
by SGT.JOKER
I voted 75% of the time, thats how it appears to be all ready

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 10:05
by Drav
Useless poll, as you dont say if hes running across your sights or towards. If towards, 90%. If across 50%. Either way if you get the ballistics and the zeroing right, isnt this something we should be able to find out for ourselves?

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 10:55
by IAJTHOMAS
As people have pointed out, it depends on the bearing he is running on, as an average, and whether he is taking any evasive action.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 11:41
by Tartantyco
S.O.P wrote:I voted 100% for a similar reason.

In-game, no wind, everything the same, stable M16, mouse in the correct position, (standing/crouch/prone??), theoretically you should get a hit on every shot you make.

Personally, I'd say 100% prone, 85-90% crouched, 75% standing.

Then comes the whole cone-of-fire/scope sway/deviation argument.

Realistically, that's a different argument as well. The question didn't take that into account.


Edit: The question also didn't take type of movement into account. Fast, perpendicular, erratic etc.
*Pedant detected*

-Stop acting like retards and read into the question instead of engaging in a massive anal pedanticism.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 11:49
by llPANCHOll
I hated the deviation when it was first introduced... and I mean "HATED" it.. then I realized that you can actually run across open areas without getting hit and I learned to like it... (then of course the HATSNIPING rule was lifted on the server I play on, and that joy was taken from me)

I feel the deviation as it is now is OK, but the timer should be based on AWSD keypad movement and not mouse movement, as to give a bit of an advantage to implaced defending forces.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 11:57
by Feenan.
I have been down to Bisley (the shooting range not far from where i live) a few times and have been on their moving deer target which moves farily rapidly and is about 100 yards out, with a Remington 700 i can get about half my shots on target so i voted 50% - that said i have never used an M16A4.

Re: [Poll] How easily should you hit a moving target?

Posted: 2008-07-25 12:17
by BeerHunter
Feenan. wrote:I have been down to Bisley
I almost got there.. *sob* but that's another story.

100M = about 60'.

If you can't hit a human sized target 100% of the time under the conditions stated then you obviously aren't in the Canadian Armed Forces. :twisted:

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