this is more of a fun suggestion than something that is going to revolutionise project reality but seeing as flamethrowers are used by the PLA not to mention being FUCKING AWESOME, it would be nice if they got a bit of attention in the PR community
Weight: 20 kg
Fuel: 9.9 liters
Shots: 3
Price: $870
Reload: 3/2 minutes
Range (Thickened): 105m
Range (Unthickened): 40m
with all this talk of asymmetric factions, what better thing than to give the chinese the most unique kit possible? animations and uses are identical to support weapons minus the reloading and flames already exist with the molotov cocktails.
it would be perfectly suited to clearing out bunkers, engulfing light vehicles or used as general suppression not to mention looking very cool at the same time. drawbacks would be high visibility, low fuel and that such a weapon should only be a pickup at the main base.
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 09:35
by Harrod200
Flamethrowers are nasty things...banned under the Geneva convention.
But since I'm guessing China isn't a signatory of that, I'm in...as long as I'm not against the Chinese
Really, I think this would only be usable if it were a .50-esque pickup kit, mapper-placed and just 1. More a novelty than a weapon, but maybe the devs can do something.
wikipedia
Flamethrowers have not been in the U.S. arsenal since 1978, when the Department of Defense unilaterally stopped using them. They have been deemed of questionable effectiveness in today's combat and use of flame weapons is always a public relations issue due to the horrific death they inflict. They are not banned in any international treaty the U.S. has signed. Thus, the US decision to remove flamethrowers from its arsenal is entirely voluntary.
this would include the geneva convention
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 10:03
by LtSoucy
Its already been suggested and it is no longer used in war by most countries. THE US and GB are 2 of those countries.
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 10:19
by MadTommy
Well this is a game
I'd love to see flamethrowers in-game... sooo much! Burn em all!!
Could have them for the smaller factions... Militia, Insurgents etc..
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 10:34
by ZaZZo
MadTommy wrote:
I'd love to see flamethrowers in-game... sooo much! Burn em all!!
Reminds me of CoH ^^
The Croc Sherman crews keep going: "Burn motherf***er!"
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 10:38
by hall0
Maybe for pickup kit in a PLA Main. but i dont think its worth doing this work just for a pickup kit
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 11:21
by ConscriptVirus
imagine being a flamethrower guy and getting ur tank shot like in saving private ryan. u go boom...and so u the guys around u
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 11:21
by fludblud
LtSoucy wrote:Its already been suggested and it is no longer used in war by most countries. THE US and GB are 2 of those countries.
i already said that only the chinese should have them and that it should only be a pickup kit, adds more variety. im sure the british and americans could have unique weapons as well.
oh and unlike saving private ryan, flamethrower fuel tanks DONT explode when hit by normal rounds, they simply vent all the high pressure fuel knocking the guy over.
incendiary rounds on the other hand...
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 12:01
by General Dragosh
fludblud wrote:i already said that only the chinese should have them and that it should only be a pickup kit, adds more variety. im sure the british and americans could have unique weapons as well.
oh and unlike saving private ryan, flamethrower fuel tanks DONT explode when hit by normal rounds, they simply vent all the high pressure fuel knocking the guy over.
incendiary rounds on the other hand...
And whut can happen if sparks occur when shooting the tanks ???
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 12:03
by Spaz
I really would not like to see flamethrowers ingame and I also think that this is a resuggestion.
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 12:08
by fludblud
General Dragosh wrote:And whut can happen if sparks occur when shooting the tanks ???
It should be noted that flame thrower operators did not usually face a fiery death from the slightest spark or even from having their tank hit by a normal bullet as often depicted in modern war films. The Gas Container [i.e. the pressurizer] is filled with a non-flammable gas that is under high pressure. If this tank were ruptured, it might knock the operator forward as it was expended in the same way a pressurized aerosol can bursts outward when punctured. The fuel mixture in the Fuel Containers is difficult to light which is why magnesium filled igniters are required when the weapon is fired. Fire a bullet into a metal can filled with diesel or napalm and it will merely leak out the hole unless the round was an incendiary type that could possibly ignite the mixture inside. This also applies to the flame thrower Fuel Container.[2]
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 12:13
by Chuc
Seems like a very interesting proposal.. however since the assets have not been created for such a weapon, I doubt we would see it in the near future.
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 12:33
by JohnnyRaygun
That's crazy. Didn't know the Chinese used flame throwers. Pretty damn long reach too! But yeah, seeing as how all the weapons fire tracers rounds I'd love to light up a flame thrower user! IRL If I saw a plt of Chinese soldiers charging I'd definately pick out the flame thrower user first. What a horrible way to die.
(btw, am i alone when it comes to the embedded vids not working? they are showing up as blank for me which is why i included the links as well)
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 14:01
by EOD_Security-2252
I think people in this thread need to calm down for a minute and actually think about flamethrowers. Ok, if we say that the Chinese use flamethrowers and we're going to give them flamethrowers, where are they going to use them?
Flamethrowers were invented to clean out bunkers and trenches, which there really are not many of in PR.
The kit would be very fun, but very useless.
Okay but it has to be called the lagthrower instead. The Chinese are so advanced they can make human beings lag out and dominate by lag-death.
ZERG RUUUSH!!!
Re: flamethrowers!!!
Posted: 2008-08-14 15:02
by Psyko
Pros and Cons?
Pro:
If implmented would most likely be made a special support kit, so only 2 maximum per map.
Realistically, would be only for chinese infantry.
Its really down to the mapper if they want it on their map.
Could kill vehicles, and mobs.
Could clean out bunkers and buildings without destroying or damaging them.
Extremely Effective infantry support weapon especially in urban environments.
Good for holding narrow passageways.
Creates a vision hindering wall of flames and smoke for squads to escape under.
Con:
Extremely visible and can give away your position
May create lag
MAy drop FPS
Requires New 1p and 3p animation, new sounds, and new physics.
any others?
and in future leave out the Exclaimation points in the thread title dude